Roses with bush beauty & fast repeat & health & scent?
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Comments (14)Here it is: Illusion Comment Comment: I have grown plants of Illusion since the early 70's at two different locations in northern Ohio. I have found it to have beautiful red, very double, and relatively large flowers. It is also a continual bloomer, blackspot- and mildew-free (without spraying), and relatively hardy (here in a normal zone 5b winter, -10 to -15 degrees F, only the tips show any winter injury). A very important point, in northern Ohio, is that the Japanese Beetles ignore it! Illusion occupies the premier location in my front yard - it surrounds the lamp post. In Modern Roses 10 Illusion is described as a Kordesii (the second parent has never been disclosed) shrub that was hybridized in 1961 by Kordes. "Flowers blood-red to cinnabar, dbl., large blooms in large clusters; fragrant; foliage leathery, glossy, light green; vigorous growth." In Wilhelm Kordes book, Roses, Reinhold Publishing Corporation, page 195 (1964) Illusion is described as having flowers that are large, full, well-formed with wild rose fragrance. The blooms are about 3 inches across and appear in clusters of up to 8 individual florets. The time of flowering is early, and the habit of growth is upright with good branching. He recommends it as a pillar, hedge, and/or specimen shrub. It can reach a height of 10 feet. It is free flowering and resistant to disease. In the 1965 Rose Annual of the British National Rose Society, Wilhelm Kordes wrote an article titled "The History of Rosa kordesii, Wulff". In the article he states: "We brought out Illusion in 1961. It is a really rich deep blood red, very free flowering and an upright grower, with the scent of the dog rose." Roy Genders in his book, The Rose, A Complete Handbook, Bobbs-Merrill Company publisher, page 440, (1965) stated the following about Illusion: "A most arresting climber with its huge trusses of fragrant flowers of exotic cinnabar-red which are borne all along the stems to a height of 8 - 9 ft." The University of Minnesota Agricultural Experiment Station published, in 1995, a 92-page report Roses for the North (item number ESMR-6594-SKID, cost $11.95 plus $3.50 shipping and handling, Minnesota Extension Service, 415 Coffey Hall, 1420 Eckles Ave, Saint Paul, MN 55108-6068). Illusion was one of the roses evaluated. For bloom pattern Illusion is reported to have heavy June bloom, slight July rebloom, and moderate August/September rebloom. For comparison this is the same bloom pattern reported for Dortmund, Henry Kelsey, and William Baffin. For winter injury Illusion was found to have dieback to the snow line, to the ground, and to the snow line for the winters of 1988-89, 1989-90, and 1990-91 respectively (remember the tests were done in zone 4a where the minimum winter temperatures are in the range of - 25 and -30 degrees F). This was the same as reported for Dortmund, Alchymist, Bonica, and for the hybrid rugosa, Hunter. In the section on diseases, Illusion did not exhibit any blackspot, powdery mildew, leaf spots, or rust during the two years of the study. Unfortunately in the section on insect observations, none of the Kordesiis were listed. Illusion does set hips. The seeds are relatively easy to germinate. I am very impressed with the seedlings that I have grown. All of the flowers have been double, and all but one (a pink) have been a rich red. Since the oldest seedlings are only two years old, it is too soon to know what type (climber, shrub, etc.) they will be. I am now trying to cross Illusion and William Baffin with the hope of obtaining a climber with the hardiness of William Baffin and the flower of Illusion. I would suggest that crosses of Illusion with red hybrid teas be made in an attempt to increase the fragrance and/or hardiness and/or disease resistance and/or the insect resistance of the red hybrid tea class. It is not often one can hope for four possible improvements from one cross! According to the 1996 issue of the Combined Rose List by Beverly R. Dobson and Peter Schneider (available for $18.00 plus $1.50 shipping USA from Peter Schneider, Post Office Box 677, Mantua, Ohio 44255) Illusion is only available from seven nurseries worldwide. In the USA it is available from Vintage Gardens, 2227 Gravenstein Hwy. South, Sebastopol, CA 95472 and (by custom propagation only) from Heritage Rosarium, 211 Haviland Mill Road, Brookeville, MD 20833. In Canada it is available from Pickering Nurseries, 670 Kingston Road, Pickering, Ontario L1V 1A6 (they do ship to the USA). It is also available from Grady's Roses in England, Roseraies Guillot in France, Pepinieres Louis Lens s.a. in Belgium, and Szalkai Kerteszet in Hungary....See MoreOrganic roses in South Africa and thoughts about life and health
Comments (30)I found this article about roses and drought: http://paulzimmermanroses.com/care/summer-care/should-you-water-your-roses-during-a-drought/ The roses in my personal garden haven’t been watered in over a decade. And that includes during a drought. but then I read this in our rose breeder's newsletter: http://www.ludwigsroses.co.za/newsletter/ The way trees drink Scientists who study forests say they’ve discovered something disturbing about the way prolonged drought affects trees. It has to do with the way trees drink. They don’t do it the way we do — they suck water up from the ground all the way to their leaves, through a bundle of channels in a part of the trunk called the xylem. The bundles are like blood vessels. When drought dries out the soil, a tree has to suck harder. And that can actually be dangerous, because sucking harder increases the risk of drawing air bubbles into the tree’s plumbing. Plant scientist Brendan Choat explains: “As drought stress increases, you have more and more gas accumulating in the plumbing system, until they can’t get any water up into the leaves. This is really bad news for the plant because this is like having an embolism in a human blood vessel.” Like a human embolism, the gas bubbles stop the flow of fluid. If that persists, it means thirst, starvation and eventually death. Choat is from the University of Western Sydney in Australia, a region that has seen years of record-breaking drought. He wondered: How much drought does it take before trees start choking on air bubbles? He and a team of researchers studied 226 species of trees around the world, including desert trees, rain forest trees and many others. They discovered that for most, it doesn’t take much drought at all. “So this is the key thing,” Choat says, “that it would only take a small shift in terms of the moisture environment, the temperature … to push these plants across the threshold.” The threshold between drinking and choking, that is. The reason there’s so little margin of error is that trees have to finely balance eating and drinking. To eat, they open holes in their leaves, called stomata, to absorb carbon dioxide. But the more they do that, the more they lose water by transpiration through the stomata. Lose too much, and they have to start sucking harder — and risk a deadly embolism. Choat’s research, in the journal Nature, shows that it doesn’t take much drought before trees start to self-destruct. But what about trees that have evolved to live in really hot, dry places? They’re sippers, not gulpers. Plant scientists like Bettina Engelbrecht figured they’d have a larger margin of safety before they choke. “Instead,” she says of Choat’s research, “we find, well, it’s all the same — everyone is right at the edge and has a very risky strategy.” Engelbrecht, at the University of Bayreuth in Germany, studies rain forest trees. “Now, we have to worry about all of them,” she says. “We have to really deal with the problem at the global scale.” That’s because temperatures are rising around the globe. That makes drought more likely and more intense. Big droughts have hit southern Europe, Russia, Australia and the U.S. in recent years. The first 10 months of 2012 were the warmest ever in the continental U.S. Along with the heat came widespread drought, which still persists in the Southwest. Nathan McDowell, a plant scientist at the government’s Los Alamos National Laboratory in New Mexico, actually puts trees under plastic to see how they deal with less water and more heat. He says trees are adaptable, up to a point. “Now we’re changing that climate range really fast,” he notes, “faster than any of the living plants here have experienced. So can they change fast enough to adapt to that? You know, the preponderance of evidence right now is saying that [at] lots of locations around the world, they’re not adapting fast enough.” When they don’t adapt, they stop growing. Beetles and other insects invade. If droughts last long enough, the forests just die, and get replaced with something else. Please help me to understand this Straw.... What I've noticed in the past with severe droughts myself is that once a plant has reached it's threshold no amount of water can make it grow and live again...and if it does, it is usually riddled with all kinds of fungal (and other) diseases and bad insects. How can not watering your roses during a drought be a good thing, as stated in the site on the top?...See MoreEnjoyable roses & recipes for health
Comments (136)I don't grow Autumn Damask, but folks report nasty thorns. I love Comte de Chambord since it's small & compact & fast rebloom, and the thorns are NOT BAD. It has tiny prickles ...the ones that poke me badly are the big roses with large thorns like Lady of Shallot. Both Carol and I have roses that die through our harsh winter. My winter got down to -14 F last week with -20 F windchill factor. Today we have a snow storm with 6 inch. of snow. Firefighter, Wise Portia, and Cloudert Soupert died multiple times in my zone 5 winter, but they are worth growing for amazing scents. Cloudert Soupert is thornless & tiny for the pot, and I like its scent better than Sharifa Asma. Below bouquet: Large pink is Evelyn, tiny light pinks are Cloudert Soupert, Upper pink is Louis Estes (bi-color). Below is Comte de Chambord Below is Duchess de Rohan (dark pinks, the scent rivals Comte but it has poor repeat). I like Comte way better than Duchess de Rohan: Below is Wise Portia in only 4 hrs. of morning sun Below Wise Portia turns purplish in cold weather, and the scent is best in cold weather. Its scent is WAY BETTER than Twilight Zone: Below is Firefighter, the leaves are very pretty, and upper 1/2 of bush is thornless. In below bouquet, red Firefighter has the best scent (fruity damask), next is orange Versigny (like an apricot pie), and least is Liv Tyler (mothball and sour apricot). One bloom of Firefighter can perfume the entire room .. I can smell it 10 feet away. Firefighter is stronger scent than Mr. Lincoln, and Firefighter gives more blooms....See MoreFall roses & good bargains & health & losing weight
Comments (480)berrypiez6b Thank you for making me laugh. Yours and Carol's equally wicked sense of humor make it fun to post here. Rhubarb encourages the "skinny gut" bacteria. One time I made a pork soup with rhubarb, but I put rhubarb's leaves in it .. I DID NOT know that rhubarb's leaves are poisonous. Ate that and I didn't die, so I'm pretty sure I have eternal life (just kidding). I stop buying Avocados since they get rotten so fast. I swear that bran cereal irritates my stomach and makes me hungrier. If I have bran cereal and soy milk, I'm hungry within 2 hours. If I have 1/2 cup of oatmeal and a touch of salt, I can go for 3 hours with no food. If I have a sweet potato, I can go for 4 hours without being hungry. I had a sweet potato last night at 12 midnight, then 1 cup of carrots for breakfast, and I'm NOT even hungry at 2 pm, today 1/15/24. My rhubarb plant in the garden is getting huge. In the spring, I'm going to cut slices of it and grind in a blender to make "sour" water. My hard-well tap-water is so alkaline that I go through 1 bag of lemons per week to make it sour to digest my food. The doc. told me to drink lots of lemon-juice (no sugar) to slash my risk of kidney stones. From the web: "Raw rhubarb is perfectly safe to add to your smoothie. In fact, it can actually be quite beneficial. Raw rhubarb is loaded with vitamins and minerals, including vitamin C, potassium, and fiber." To increase "skinny bacteria" or Akkermansia Muciniphila in your gut: "Supplementation of B. animalis could also increase A. muciniphila. Metformin and antibiotics treatment (vancomycin) also significantly promote A. muciniphila abundance in the gut but these strategies are not suitable for general public. Rhubarb extract is promising but more research is needed to confirm its activity. Cranberry extract and Concord grape polyphenols are active but green tea and whole grape showed no effect." Study on akkermansia muciniphila (skinny gut bacteria)...See Morestrawchicago z5
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