I thought that for once I'd write the title in italics and then I got one of the parentheses in the wrong direction. I need an editor.

Thanks for the compliments Ethan! With citruses, I have just about 60-n-1. All publicly available UCR blood orange budwoods I have them on one tree. Plums, about 4 dozen on one tree, Apricots I have about 2 dozen cultivars in one tree. Peaches, and nectarines just a dozen. Apples, pears, quinces, I lost count. Persimmons I have 43 cultivars on one tree while most Californians believe there are only 2 kinds of persimmons. Well, bearstate, the fruitsaladtree folks don't take it to the extremes. They don't even have apples, quinces, asian pears and european pears grafted together. Well as far as corruption goes, I have grafted 5 genera together and 7 distinct species, but actually the total number of distinct cultivars on the tree is 24. Here's the listing of species and their genus that were all grafted together: Crataegus crusgalli, Eriobotrya japonica, Malus domestica, Cyodonia oblonga, Pyrus serotina, Pyrus beautifolia, Pyrus pyrifolia Similarly, I have grafted all known stone fruit types that I can find in my yard: almonds, peaches, nectarines, peach almond, apricots, sweet cherries, sour cherries, pluots, plumcots, apriums, peachcots, peach plums, cherry plums, Asian plums, native American plums, Russian plums, gages, mirabelles, prunes, other european plums which are more than a dozen distinct species and interspecific hybrids, for a total of about 48 cultivars in one tree. Not counting the various interstock themselves. For one thing, both the Krymsk 1 and Krymsk 5 rootstocks can be excellent interstock for grafting apricots and cherries together in one tree as an example. Just the krymsk 1 and 5, you will be able to graft almost every stone fruits out there together. I STILL HAVE TO FIND a specimen where a stone fruit is grafted together with a pome fruit on one tree, yes they belong to the same rose family but haven't ran across one live specimen that have both of these types. Citruses belong to a different family altogether, and so wouldn't easily believe if someone has reported that they grafted apples and citruses together. I may believe an apple and nectarine grafted together through several series of interstocks, but not citruses together with either pomes or stones. But it shouldn't be far too distant that it could be done one day, it just needs time, as there is no monetary gain to be had in any of these feats. When doing multi-grafts, you have to constantly do it to keep your tree balanced. Graft over the weaker cultivars unto the vigorous cultivars. It is like pruning, and not that complex to do. For me, pruning and grafting is the same effort. The longest time that consumes me is where to graft, not the grafting or pruning operation itself.

Actually, Dswan, I kill wildlife fairly often. Only in the appropriate season and only what I eat...and I don't feel bad at all about it. But I can sympathize about the snake...or any other critter that gets killed for no good reason at all. I've sadly run into enough boneheads over the years (and many aren't hillbillys...not sure if we technically can legally call them "hillbillys" in Canada...it may be like "champagne" is only rightfully applied to certain wines produced in the appropriate districts in France..perhaps we can call them "sub-alpine oriented peoples" ) who seem to feel that the only appropriate response to any critter on their property is extermination. I have a skunk that lives under my front verandah...not so much lives but loiters. In the several years that it's been resident, I've smelled it only once, and my olfactory abilities are finely honed. I've enjoyed watching the old girl raise litter after litter of handsome young skunks. A visiting relative was shocked by my entire family's nonchalance over the skunks. I told him that we learned to accept them and their odd habits, in much the same way my family came to accept him. Still, on his own little slice of rural bliss, he routinely dispatches any and all skunks, coons, and squirrels as they are "vermin". I find this appalling. What's worse is that he is an extremely civilized, well read and thoughtful individual...and unless Manchester, UK qualifies as part of Appalachia, I'm doubting his hillbilliness. Every day I hear complaints about Canada geese, cormorants, and sundry other birds and mammals. More and more, these complaints are coming from retirees and yuppies, refugees from the urban sprawl of Toronto or Ottawa. I hear comments about control and culling, and how the environment is "out of whack" Personally I'd like to see the exposion of these minivan driving Homo sapiens brought under some sort of control..they've taken to building their large bulky homes in every corner of our once proudly rural township...they clutter our roads and insist on trying to recreate the exact situations they left behind...if anyone has any suggestions I'm open.

Yes I do use it in the washer and I have a front loading Samsung. It has never caused a lot of suds. I had to really soak these shorts good with it, that is why they are laying on a tarp, then used Gain HE detergent, no excess suds at all. You would think there would be so much suds it would ooze out of every possible crevice in the machine, under the utility room door and down the hall...but it doesn't, not in my machine anyway.