Trish, there is a description on HMF, but they lack photos. But a google search shows many photos in google images. The only sellers are in Australia. Maybe you already know this. Diane

Yes, that's what worries me. Ludwig's are listed as selling it, but they don't now.

When I first saw the whole bush photo, I thought it looked just like one of my big Julia Child roses. They are about 7 feet right now. Maybe you should try a Julia Child. I know, I know. But I'm serious. Diane

This looks like the Lioness, I think.

Diane, I did try Julia Child some years ago, after seeing yours. It was a BS mess for me. Totally defoliated. Lioness gets a 5 star (top) rating for disease resistance from Treloar's - a good rose nursery. They have a video of it, and it does look lovely. But I'm pretty sure I'm not going to get it now. I think I'll plant a lemon tree in that spot.

A lemon tree sounds nice. My father in law had a lemon tree, an avocado tree, and a nectarine tree in his back yard (not to mention a beautiful pond and waterfall, plus koi). Believe me, I availed myself of those delightful fruits, both when I lived in Southern Cal, and when my wonderful FIL sent me boxes of the most perfect avocados. One summer, I remember cooking and baking every kind of lemon thing that sounded good to me (of course, a whole lot of cookies). I hope you have fun with your lemon tree. How about growing an avocado tree? Have you ever considered an Austin like Golden Celebration? Do they black spot, too? I love that rose and it gets big and tall. Diane

Mmm, lemon curd... better make some again. The last batch of lemon curd I made I just ate straight from the bowl 😅 enjoy your lemon tree, I remember summers in Greece my grandparents' lemon tree grew big, delicious lemons, and the juice was sweet. Can't grow them in my zone, unfortunately.

Too cold here, too, and I like to make lemon curd. Great with pound cake, not to mention scones. Or as a filling between cake layers. I am getting so hungry. Trish you must make some wonderful lemon things and post your recipes and photos. Diane

Avgolemono is another great use for lemons!

I had the impression that Julia Child wouldn't handle the winters here. But someone in my neighborhood has a great looking yellow rose in their front yard that looks just like JC, I've just never gotten a chance to ask the owner if it is or not.

I think Julia might be OK in your zone. Maybe use a little winter protection until the plant is mature. I recommend grafted Julia. I grow both own root and grafted, and grafted outperforms OR by far. What is avgolemono? I make a good lemon pie, too. Why don't you take a pic of your neighbors tree, post it, and we'll try to ID it for you? Diane

I meant neighbors rose. Geez.

Diane, your F-I-L's place sounds just my sort of garden. And how great to have been sent boxes of avocadoes!

I have a lemon tree in the ground, and one in a pot. But they both have leaf miner, which I'm treating so far with neem oil, and the one in the ground had gall wasp (I think) as well. Something that made it weep, and die back. I cut it back almost to the graft a few weeks ago, and it's sent up 3 little shoots - above the graft - which have leaf miner still, but not too badly. It may still have gall wasp too. I only use the lemons for Lemon Delicious, which I have to make vegan these days. Too lazy to make lemon curd, and I'd be the only who could eat it. Though my son might sneak a little behind his girlfriend's back!

The area which is available is a great deal nearer the house than the one in the ground, and I'd like a small tree there, and lemon blossom smells so wonderful. I have an avocado tree - a Reed. It's been fruiting for around 5 or 6 years, though didn't get a one last year, as a terrific rain storm knocked every last baby fruit off the tree. They're mostly rather watery. Lots this year. I live in hope.

I'm not going to try another Austin. They've all BS'd terribly here. A shame. I tried lots! It's Teas and Chinas for me, and the Rigo Rosen Kordes range. The humidity is bad here, and it's worse than ever this year. It used to not get really humid till February (late Summer), but this year it started in Spring. I just drip when gardening, even before 8am. Did you have a look at the video of Lioness on Treloar's website?

Magpie, that soup sounds so good. And actually just the thing for you and your family while you're unwell. I hope you're on the up and up?

@titian1 10b Sydney We're recovering, not 100% yet but already feeling better. Thank you for asking.

Yes, I agree with Trish. Your soup sounds wonderful. This is soup weather, too. I'm making minestrone tomorrow for my family. I'm glad you're feeling better, but rest as much possible. I think this virus has a way of hanging around.

Trish, is there anything you can treat your lemon tree with besides neem oil? It doesn't sound like it's working. Have you ever thought of growing a Meyer Lemon tree? You could grow that one in your house, I think. I've also made lemon sauce, which is lemon curd without the eggs. It's just as good and works well as the filling in cakes, and on cakes, and....I feel an ice cream attack coming on. I hadn't thought of my FIL's back yard in ages. Of course, he and my MIL have been gone for many years. I could always sleep the best in their back bedroom which had a screened door open to the wonderful sound of the flowing water that always put me to sleep. It really did. I need to watch that video about the Lioness rose. Diane

Diane, I love minestrone, that sounds wonderful. I've been such a soup lover since childhood, where I always wanted to take soup to school for lunch, and eat it once I got home too.

@titian1 10b Sydney Sorry to read that Austins don't ever do well for you. They're so beautiful, but luckily for us all there is such a huge variety of beautiful roses from all different classes of rose. It's too bad there are so many we can't try because they're not available in our countries.