Assuming you do have a very sharp draining soil as strongly suggested for the jade plant and as sharp for flap jacks some ideas would be a little different but both these plants have the same principles Jades do make good easy and sometimes fast recoveries as there almost indestructible. As suggested make sure the sifted soil is also very fast and sharp draining. Adding more time over a couple weeks to a month transition the jade from more indirect sun or partly shaded toward more time in direct sun and higher temps. During the initial weeks bring both plants inside if temps are to be lower 50's Weekly watering is one persons normal for there jades and would be a very good idea for you for the recovery time and perhaps this whole growing season but any jade as any Crassula can survive several weeks with out water. Let the plant recover soon you should be able to know when to flush the container with water by the leaves of the jade Generally if the foliage starts to look wrinkly then water if plump then hold back on watering. Like most a good goal is to not see any wrinkling at all on jades. I'm not at all certain why a wooden dowel is being suggested to figure out when to water or not water a succulent plant of any type. Of the succulents I have that grow in the sharp enough media for them to grow well in a wooden dowel wouldn't even make it into the container with out risking disturbing the roots or the media it's self. There are (in my opinion) much better tells for watering succulent plants than a wooden stick knocking things out and about a container that I'm trying to keep in.

I just have to say--most my life I've had to get a lot of my plants by mail-order--lived in rural areas, couldn't find much in local stores most places, wanted something different I couldn't find locally even when there were pretty good local sources. Even if you're not thinking about *buying*, going to nursery websites can be a great source of information. Many have good information about growing, and more have pictures. You can learn a lot about plants you may not even know about but are just what you have to have (boy, is that a description of me!) If you have a particular kind of plant family in mind, there are different sites that feature different kinds of plants. Violet Barn is excellent and has more different kinds of plants, and pictures, and good prices and service- Kartuz Nursery has lots of different kinds of plants, and pictures--I understand the service has improved considerably. So many more--you could go to the Garden Watchdog and get lots and lots of names, plus reviews by customers about prices, customer services, etc.

Yeah, mozilla is not used as much. I think they target IE because of it's wider usage. Diggery - One more thing to try is- * Click on "tools" in the upper right corner. * Click on the "Pop Up Blocker". * Click on "Pop Up Blocker Settings" * When the window opens, look all the way at the bottom and there will be a drop down menu for the "Blocking Level". * I think default is "medium". Change it to "High" and see if that helps. Of course if it is on "low", then use "medium" and that should help. If that doesn't work you need to remove the spyware application on your computer. There is software that can do it for you, or do a search on how to do it yourself from a university or computer geek forum. I understand your frustration with the pop up's. I can't stand them. With me, I get a negative relation with the product. So if I see it on the store shelf, I think " those are the _______'s that are so annoying to me when I'm trying to do something on the internet. Why would I use there _________?" (Fill in the blanks with your favorite choice of words)

Hi, I see that many of your Crassulaceans (Sedums, Echeverias, etc.) are severely etiolated. Obviously they are in desperate need of increased light, but your setup seems sufficient. Do you know how potent your growing lamps are? How many hours per day they are on? How close they are to each plant? Knowing this would help because this seems to be a light issue over anything else. Do you have access to windowsills or the outdoors? All of my succulents are faced to western or southern windows (inside), and there have been no light problems (and I'm on the East Coast!). Also, you should not worry about overwatering-- it all depends on your soil mixture. Bonsai Jack (which you had mentioned) has a great gritty mix that was designed for succulents. It is good for beginners, as it is almost impossible to overwater while using it. Using your current setup, do NOT fertilize. Never fertilize when the plants are not getting sufficient sun, as they will grow more etiolated without proper light conditions. And in regards to the C. lehmanii, it is normal for it not to look instantly better overnight. I have many mesembs, and watering when they are severely wrinkled is a gradual process. They must have continual soakings (but let the pot air out before each one) to be restored back to turgidity.