New rose at Edmunds': "Top Cream" fragrant, healthy, own root!
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Fragrant Cloud own root?
Comments (6)Patrick, I replaced my FC this year, it was always a puny plant (although grafted) and it didn't survive the winter. The new one is grafted as well, I bought it for $10 at a local nursery. Well I think I have gotten more blooms out of this new rose in half a year than I did with the old one for the past few years. It's very robust. I've been getting into exhibiting, and I've learned from exhibitors that the rootstock is important. Especially with these HTs. You can probably try it own root, but it's going to take longer to establish and probably never be as robust. Since I'm a bit further south than you, I am going to try some roses on Fortuiana. The exhibitors down here swear by it. You should see the size of their roses on fort. I think it would do well in your zone, if you apply a little winter protection. I have also ordered some roses on multiflora to see how that does here. I am also excited because there are two nurserys here that are now carrying Austins on fort. There are some Austins that have struggled in my yard and I am going to try to replace them. Some roses are good own root. I did get some own roots earlier this year. Playboy is doing well. Paul Ecke Jr, not as much. Not sure about Twilight Zone yet, it's still in a pot. IME Fragrant Cloud is a bit of a delicate rose, I've never seen it own root, but maybe someone has had it. Here is pic of my FC I took this weekend:...See MoreHealthy & prolific own-root roses
Comments (7)Lilyfinch knows her stuff! I am in hot, humid S. Ga and have several that do great for me. Pearl d'or, Belinda's Dream, Louis Phillipe (cracker rose) Souvenir de la Malmaison, Carefree Beauty, Nahema...new last year Dark Desire and Summer Romance...Sharifa Asma was a tiny thing when I got it...has been a very slow grower, but I moved her a few weeks ago, one foot from where she was, and now she is covered with buds...go figure? Most of my roses get a good amount of shade, some more than others and do great! Bloom profusely. I am fairly new to roses, but found this forum to be the best way to learn about them! I just search a rose I am interested in and then look for responses from people with my climate. The members here don't know how grateful i am!!! Saved me from buying some that would have failed in our humidity! (which is wonderful because I am on a budget!) You may want to add your zone to your screen name. Your zone 8 may be different than mine!...See MoreBest own root roses for your type of soil and annual rainfall?
Comments (60)lizzieswellness I have been growing roses for 30 years (I'm 60) and I have been rooting roses for a decade. I grow 150+ varieties of OWN ROOT roses. What you wrote fit GRAFTED roses that are grafted on ONE PARTICULAR ROOTSTOCK, but DOES NOT APPLY to own-root roses which are vastly different from each other. Like Bayes Blueberry is a long rope root, or shallow cluster-root of Baby Fauraux, or thick & woody & chunky root (like a tree) of French Romantica roses. I dug up plenty of dead own-root roses that don't survive my zone 5a winter at -20 F below zero. And their roots are DIFFERENT from each other, just google "StrawChicago and HMF" and you'll see I posted plenty of pics. of roots of roses: Even grafted roses are different from each other (Fortuniana, Multiflora, Dr.Huey). Below is multiflora rootstock (pic. from internet): Below is Dr.Huey rootstock, dug up from my garden of rock hard clay: Below is a pic. of own root rose that a friend sent to me. NO WAY that such a tiny own root can handle rock hard clay. One size DOES NOT fit all when it comes to own-root roses....See MoreDid Edmunds' send me a rose with crown gall on the roots?
Comments (31)I wish I could be of help ac91z6, but I'm rather clueless when it comes to this topic. The first rose Edmunds sent me a rep told me their horticulturist believed it to be crown gall and to destroy the plant. They shipped new plants, and the new rose had similar roots to the first, I sent them pictures of the new one, and this time their horticulturist called me and told me this was normal for Francis Meilland's roots, and to not worry about planting the rose. I am not a horticulturist, so I took his word at face value and planted the rose. I'm not entirely naive, and created a paper trail with them should I have a problem down the road given the conflicting information they gave me. Out of the 80+ roses I've planted in the past three years, FM is the only one with roots that looked like that. My advice would be to reach out to Regan, offer to send them pictures and see what they say....See Morerosesmi5a
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