POLL: Shower heads. Is two better than one?
Lindsey W.
8 months ago
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Does your shower have more than one shower head?
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Comments (26)oh, man... mocassin... you are being such a good sport... but I've got to tell you, I've been agonizing over whether Fragrant Blue is a medium - or a large. I've got old clumps that break the 48" mark, but more typically they would be around 36-40"... we're calling them MEDIUM. And hhb... I too was kind of disturbed by all the back and forth on the sizes around the BME dispute - and finally just came to the conclusion that those folks who want to do leaf shows and judge leaf shows just get to set sizes any way they want. As much as I enjoy a leaf show, there is no way that I'm going to call a 28" diameter hosta clump of small leaves a mini... and likewise, a plant that stays small in diameter by nature but has leaves 18" long on a couple of eyes after a decade in the garden just isn't an extra-large. Of course, the nursery folks and catalog writers are pretty much ignoring the official AHS leaf-area size labeling and going with height-and-width sizing anyway......See MoreAre 2 high loops better than one?
Comments (9)There are a number of issues here so let us examine them one at a time. 1.If you will take the time to read your owners manual you will see that there is supposed to be some water left in the sump. The purpose of that water level is to protect the motor seals by absorbing heat when the dishwasher heating element is on during the drying cycle. If it did not have that water layer the seals would quickly dry out, crack and leak. 2.Now in regards to installing a backflow preventer on the line. The answer here is absolutely NO, the codes prohibit installing any valves on a drain line. 3. Quote "I'm having trouble visualizing the physics involved here, and determining whether the water would have sufficient force to backflow up a second loop" When the pump is running the line is full of water and the discharge end of that line is higher than the input end at the pump. This means that the moment the pump stops the water will begin falling back towards the dishwasher by gravity flow and in so doing it creates a syphon. Not only could it syphon the water over a second high loop, it could syphon the water over a loop that is 32' high (Less 1' for each 1000ft above sea level at the installation location and the friction head of the line.) No doubt your high loop is immediately behind the dishwasher and you have an excessively long line. This means that it will continue siphoning the water back to the dishwasher until air reaches the top of the high loop and breaks the siphon. The solution would be to run the line as flat as possible from the dishwasher to the sink location, then make the high loop as close to the sink connection as possible. In this configuration as the siphon develops it would get air to the top of the high loop quickly and break the siphon. Adding a second high loop would do nothing but increase the volume of standing water in the line and would ultimately make the problem worse. It must also be understood that the high loop is not intended to prevent the discharge water from the dishwasher from backflowing to the machine. It is intended to prevent cross contamination by dirty discharge water from the sink flowing to the machine when the sink is drained. 4.Quote"our DW hose is very long", Dishwasher pumps are high volume, extremely low pressure pumps and are only intended to push water through a maximum of 10' + 3' of vertical head. When it is necessary to increase the length of the line beyond 10' the line diameter should be increased by one nominal trade size to compensate for the additional friction head....See MoreBathtub with two shower heads?
Comments (5)I didn't want to put in second Ibox for a diverter (since my goal was to keep it looking pretty timeless/traditional 1930s/40s - it actually turned out fairly modern, so this wasn't exactly what I was after, but I like it.) So what I have is the thermostatic valve, plus a diverter that switches between the shower & tub spout. Then I have the Hydrorail which has a diverter on the bottom - so I can switch between the fixed and hand showers. In fact, I sort of wish I had bought the longer hydrorail - so we could lower the hand shower more if we had little people who were big enough to shower on their own. I think you would need two diverters or one that will do A/B/C/AB - I'm not sure if there is one like that - but I'd research that. (A=fixed, B=hand, C=tub, AB=both showers at once) Thanks!! It was three years of on and off DIY and side projects, but it did turn out exactly as I hoped! And yes, people do shower together in a tub shower, but it is a tad cozy. ;-)...See MoreSpecs of two shower heads - which to buy?
Comments (8)So much wrong. Why do people give advice about things they aren't familiar with. This valve can supply up to 10 gpm per port. With 1 or 2 simultaneous ports the valve can supply the maximum of 10 gpm to each. If running more than 2 ports the formula is 21/X. So with three ports it's 7 gpm each (21/3=7). This is straight from Kohler. At 4 gpm one line will be fine and it would be fine even if I was running five ports simultaneously (21/5=4.2). Assuming 70% hot water, my 85 gallon water heater can keep this shower head pumping for 30 minutes which is much longer than I'd ever need it. So back to my question. I'm going to split one of the valves into 2 or 4 lines (depending on which shower head I buy) to feed the shower head and that will easily supply enough water. The question is if the 4 inlet version of the shower head has has an inherent performance advantage or if the performance of both can be expected to be the same....See More
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