Tom Carruth and the Huntington Rose Gardens: long story
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Favorite Carruth Roses
Comments (51)I'm loving this thread! There are some really gorgeous Carruth roses out there. I was very happy with Cinco de Mayo and Marilyn Monroe and Twilight Zone and Hot Cocoa this past season. For next year I'm adding Diamond Eyes, About Face, and hopefully Stainless Steel. Julia Child was my 'gateway' rose - I'll always love her. Diane, I can never get enough photos of the front of your house! White Licorice is very pretty too. It goes beautifully with JC!...See MoreTom Carruth has a new gig
Comments (23)Don't apologize for what you plant. Only you know what pleases you, grows well where you grow it and cooperates with your gardening style. Some here like futzing with their roses, some don't. I know people who micro tend them unmercifully, but that's their style of gardening. I also know some (myself included) that show no mercy for any plant which requires intensive care. Whichever type you are is your business and right for you, no apologies required. They're your choice and your right to make them. Initially, Knock Out was a variety, like Iceberg, Queen Elizabeth, etc. It has been massaged into a brand like Austin, English, Carpet, etc. The initial cultivar does have superior to all other roses released prior to it, resistance to the five strains of black spot we have in this country. Its creator deliberately exposed his seedlings to all five families, strains, types, populations, whatever you choose to call them, and selected the roses which held up best, longest to all five types. This isn't to say they WON'T get spots, but it takes significantly greater disease pressure to cause them to collapse than it does any other cultivar previously created. They represent a compromise, as all improvements in anything do. The best compromise we have been offered to date. Some roses may resist spotting in some places longer than Knock Outs may, but over the long haul, Knock Outs retain much more of their foliage, longer and provide more color, longer than any other rose previously released, over the entire country. They aren't perfect, no plant is, but for the most consistent resistance to the greatest number of black spot strains, over the longest period of the growing season in the greatest number of places, Knock Out and its variants represent the best we've ever been offered. Of course many will become bored with them. Familiarity breeds contempt. See too much of anything, and you begin resenting it. Icebergs, Carpet Roses, Knock Outs, oleanders, box woods, you name it, see it everywhere and you tire of it. But, if it works... I don't doubt one of Tom's duties, if not initially, probably eventually, will involve fund raising. It's the nature of the beast, unfortunately. Betsy, I don't have the information to what extent any of the issues which have caused the collapse of our rose industry have affected other rose markets, but I would venture a guess they have. The same major issues which are killing the ARS have already killed the Royal National Rose Society in Britain. Disposable income is dwindling globally. "Leisure time" is diminishing globally. Land and water prices are skyrocketing globally. Availability of all resources is diminishing the same everywhere, greater in some places, less in others, but we're all feeling many of the same squeezes for many of the same reasons. Many fertilizers and other chemicals require petroleum for their creation and distribution and we all know that story. More and more municipalities and countries are banning the use of synthetic chemicals on ornamentals. You aren't going to grow what demands the chemicals you can't get or can't use even if you could get them. Personally, I was much more willing at $2 (and less) per gallon of gas to hop in my truck and run down to pick up a $6, 2 cu .ft. bag of potting soil or $6, 20# bag of rose food than I am at $4 - $5 a gallon for a $15 bag of soil or $20 bag of rose food. MY income certainly hasn't kept pace with those prices, and I would hazard a guess that most of the world's population's haven't, either. I'm fortunate to have area in which to garden. It isn't perfect, and much of it is too steep for my energy and abilities these days, but even if it wasn't, I used half the water last year than I did the previous year and it cost the SAME amount as I paid for the greater usage the previous year. I'm sure similar issues exist in the other markets. All of which put very similar pressures on the sales of "past time" expenses no matter what country you live in. If similar declines haven't occurred elsewhere, I'd bet they are headed for them. Kim...See MoreTell about your Carruth Roses
Comments (40)I admire Tom Carruth very much. He started out in a business that did not please his father, worked hard to find a way to go to college, gradually finding rosarians to learn from, becoming mentored by them when they saw his talent and passion, he never gave up and produced some of the world's most beautiful roses. I'm so glad he didn't just produce California zone roses. Most will grow where winters get cold. I have Outta The Blue and Wild Blue Yonder, which are similar; ruffly, romantic Love Song; Grand Dame with strong fragrance; Pink Home Run which is constantly covered in blooms and Watercolors Home Run. I wish I had chosen Julia Child instead of the Austin Golden Celebration, but maybe GC will improve with time. I was shocked with the bright orange buds of Cinco de Mayo since I don't have orange in my garden, but they open into the most gorgeous blooms in a range of subtle colors. Twilight Zone would be a good Cinco de Mayo companion. I miss going to The Huntington Rose Gardens where Mr. Carruth is curator since I moved to inland northeast WA. I'm looking forward to more of his introductions....See MoreHuntington Rose Garden battling chilli trips with predatory mites
Comments (15)I would be interested in knowing as well. I am in N E FL and I am surprised that chili thrips havent showed up here yet. They are rampant in S FL and we are getting into the 100F here in the summers now and having warmer winters without much frost so I know they are coming lol. One thing I've noticed that loves to eat the regular thrips is our native little green tree frogs. As soon as thrips show up in the spring, I will soon see the little frogs start hanging out in the flower blossoms gobbling up thrips. These frogs are endangered here in FL now due to invasion of the Cuban Tree frogs that gobble up the green tree frogs, native lizards etc. I wonder if these tree frogs could b used in other places like Calif to control thrips. They do a great job here. I had these frogs in our yard when I lived in Louisiana so hopefully the Cuban tree frogs arent going eat all them up in LA....See Moreseasiderooftop
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