writersblock I don't really know either. That's why I contacted the manufacturer. Their customer service people don't seem to know the answer. Most manufacturers put this information on the technical drawings, but not Maax. On the drawings for both tubs, the overflow center is listed at 17.5 but it's measuring from the base of the leveling feet, not the interior of the tub. And the center of the drain still has an inch or so below it (so the water would be at most 16.5 deep). When I asked the salesperson to clarify, they said the water depth on the Maax Pose tub was "about 20 inches" which has to be wrong. Seeking clarification, I contacted Maax directly. So far they have told me three different answers: 17.5" less than 12" about 14.5" I guess the 14.5 is the correct answer, as that sounds about right. I want a tub where the water is at least 17.5 inches deep so the Maax tub won't work. I'm now leaning towards the Lacey or Sydney from Hydro Systems.

enduring, we ordered the 30" Bellwether today. I was really hoping he'd change his mind and decide on the 32". We would have had a lot more options. The 32" I saw today had a really bad case of the "dimples" :o The entire outside surface was very dimply. I'm hoping mine won't be as bad. Is yours like that? Ohhh, turn the overflow upside down! Thanks! My plumber will do anything I ask (at least he has so far) :) roadrunnerrita, I considered having his tub refinished but learned that that has it's own issues. As grungy as he gets, I'd be concerned about the finish getting scratched and what I could and couldn't use to clean it with. He said he didn't want a "plastic tub". I like my acrylic air tub but I can't use abrasive cleaners (like Scrubbing Bubbles) and it can scratch pretty easy.

For those who like the immersion of a tub and the moving water or massage-like functions, but hate the gunk and the noise, one company makes jetted tubs differently and those issues are supposed to be minimized or eliminated. They used to be called Sanijet and Spike had a policy against allowing us to even mention the name because they had violated his strict anti-advertising policy. I got a warning just for asking about them. (For you Houzzers who never visited us when we were THS, it was strictly forbidden for even the Pros who contributed to the discussions to even mention their company names before Houzz bought the Garden Web and This Home Site) Now, the company is named Purewater Baths. Pipeless Technology at Purewater Baths Each jet is a separate electric motor and there are no pipes under the tub going from jet to jet. So no microbe-filled gunk will greet you when you start jets that have been sitting unused with stagnant water sitting in the pipes since the last bath. Since there is no central pump, there is no vibrating motor making noise and humming for all the adjoining rooms to hear. It is supposed to be a technology that allows you to talk, listen to music, or watch TV, if that is what you want to do while soaking. Also, when installing a conventional jetted tub with pipes, you should be able to elevate the center of each plastic tubing pipe so that it always drains clear after using the tub. This would help with the dirty water/gunk issue. I always wanted to try one, and had hoped for years to someday have one, before arthritis and my other joint disorder made getting in and out of tubs impossible for me. They are more expensive, but I was willing to save for that if it made the bathing experience worthwhile. For those voicing objections to the gunk and the noise, I thought that letting you know about this option would be beneficial.

I think AirBnB is different from VRBO, and so we may use VRBO, which might require me to be the agent. If one is using an agent for the rental, then it is illegal for the agent to deny children, but if the owner is the agent and owns fewer than three rental properties, then the owner can restrict his property to adults only. Cathedral City is not really a place that children would want to go - in fact, the owners of the house are selling it because their children refuse to visit there. If we have to offer it to children, I will raise the amount of the deposit, refuse to allow pets (which is perfectly legal), and offer it as a two-bedroom instead of three. The third bedroom is an office at the moment, and so I can easily list it as two-bedroom. I don't want a crowd of people there at one time anyway, and as a two-bedroom, no more than four people would be allowed to occupy it, by CC regulations. We do not need the extra money from six vs four people, but we do need some income from this property, since I am retired. We will, however, be interested in renting to people who attend the Coachella Festival, and the rents for that time period are the highest, but everything still gets booked solid. My sister's stepson in Austin owns several houses (that his father bought for him), and he makes $30K during SXSW. Kevin and I make a point of avoiding visiting our sister during this time, even though it is close to Kevin's birthday in March, and March plus October are the nicest months in Austin for weather. Our nephew had the great consideration to have his wedding in October, and so we went to Texas for that, but our niece had hers the first week in August, and I refused to go, although Kevin did, despite the 110° weather with 90% humidity.