Hello, fairly sure you have one choice for a new 36" panel ready w/ external ice/water dispenser. A GE Monogram. It might have to be used to get below 5k. Maybe with an entire Monogram package it might get the cost down closer. Maybe more choices used. Hope this helps.

Your post is contradictory. ”Fully-integrated” means it disappears into the cabinetry with no trim or hinges visible. If you want water and ice dispenser in the door, then it will clearly be visible as a fridge and will not be a fully-integrated model.

You need to decide which you want more - the fully-integrated panelled look where the fridge disappears, or the water dispenser. If the latter, there are some sleek elegant choices with stainless steel doors.

Edited to add: just saw your budget. Forget fully-integrated, you are thousands from that.

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Got it. What did you expect? You are looking for fully integrated for 2K lol. Have a nice day.

^^^^exactly. The idea of fully integrated would be totoally defeated, if the fridge had water and/or ice dispensers.

I am confused. Dont they have water and ice dispensers inside the fridge? What is the minimum I am able to spend? I said <5k but I am flexible.

Seems this Dacor has everything I need for 6.6k (using the rebate). Anything cheaper?

You asked for ”fully integrated.” That Dacor model is ”built in” not integrated. There is a difference between the two. Integrated models totally disappear, and are indistinguishable from the surrounding cabinetry. Built in models are set in, but do not disappear. They are easily recognizable as fridges.

Either way, as you are discovering, your pricepoint is unrealistic.

Now that you edited your OP to specify water dispenser inside the door, there are models that offer that. But fully-integrated will cost more than your $2-3k budget.

check out Liebherr... 36" F.D. .. i dont think they have water/ice inside though. we bought ours about 7-8 ago, so not sure of the price now, but worth a shot. just make sure you can get service in your area

People who buy integrated fridges buy water chillers at the sink, and ice maker appliances for the bar or utility area. 15-20K by the time its all done. 10x your completely unrealistic budget.

darbuka, how is that Dacor model gonna be recognized once i put the sane panels as the cabinets panels?

Can anyone shed light on how the Dacor is gonna be recognized, and how is it not fully integrated? I don't really understand how that is possible after the same panels as the cabinets are attached

Fully integrated refrigerators have special hinges that allow them to be built into the surrounding cabinetry in such a way that they look like cabinets. Panel ready refrigerators accept panels on the doors but hinges, vents etc are visible, so while the doors match the surrounding cabinets, it doesn't look like a cabinet. Go to the Subzero website and take a look at the difference between the classic series and the designer series and you'll see what I mean. Integrated refrigerators are very expensive, panel ready range from mid to high price. Subzero is the only one I know that has both internal water and ice dispensers.

https://www.subzero-wolf.com/sub-zero/full-size-refrigeration

mmm does anyone have a picture of these hinges showing? I am not sure I am understanding. Hinges should be covered by the panels, shouldn't them? And what if the panels run all the way down to cover the vent? Is that not possible? The panel ready dacor I linked above (see also link below) does not seem to have vents.

https://www.ajmadison.com/cgi-bin/ajmadison/DRF365300AP.html

This is my panel ready 42” Sub Zero. The hinges don’t show, per se. Rather stainless trim, which the doors open up against, is what you see. The unit sits a bit proud of the cabinets on either side. You can clearly see that it’s a fridge. But, it blends in with the surroundings, instead of being a big honking piece of stainless steel. The dishwasher, on the left side of the sink, also is paneled.

The refrigerator shown on Dacor's website looks integrated and seems to have everything you're looking for. Keep in mind that panels are expensive as are appliance pulls so be sure to add those costs to your budget. Also, a good installer is key to a truly integrated look.

For most of the ”built in” to be fully flush inset install requires a host of cabinet custom depth alterations to make things work. Which only adds to the expenses. Or, they cannot be flush inset installed. It’s really easy to make a 10K mistake here if you don’t know what youre doing.

Thank you Verbo. Which alterations? Who would do these alterations on the Decor I listed above?

@darbuka, what is making the subzero not flush? was it supposed to be like that? It still looks great, but just wondering why is it not flush

Try Bosch benchmark “flat hinge”. I have it with a seamless look. https://www.bosch-home.com/us/productslist/refrigerators/french-door/built-in/B36IT905NP

Also no water, but ice. Have a everpure water filter system on sink faucet https://www.abt.com/Everpure-H-300-Drinking-Water-Filter-System-EV927076/p/55756.html

The cabinet design, from the very beginning, has to be designed with custom extra depth for flush inset installs, if the appliance allows for it. If the appliance doesnt allow for it, it won’t operate or open. In the end, it is not any less expensive than just buying the correct fully integrated models that don’t require extra custom cabinet depth.

Ok I guess at the end the difference between panel ready integrated or non integrated relies on the fact that the fridge allows for flush install or not (they all state 24" deep when they state "panel-ready" so I guess they can have flush install, including the Dacor above, but i will call Dacor to be safe). Basically you just need to have a cabinet guy that understands that he has to get me cabinet depth and panel width in a way that everything is flush. But there is not such a thing as integrated or not integrated to me, it is all about the depth of the cabinets and width of panels. All panels ready fridge who are 24" depth are "integratable", as long as cabinets allow it. It is the cabinet design that "integrates". Do we agree or am I missing something?

That Bosch is amazing thanks @xyzzzz12345. I think because of the missing water dispenser the Dacor could be a better option (also slightly more cubic feet since little taller) so I avoid to have filtration and cooling at the sink (I hate ice in water, only in cocktails). but it's good I have another option thanks.

Ven - no it's not. Do a search of built in vs. integrated. A true integrated fridge with panels will disappear into the cabinetry. A built in will not. It will sit proud of the cabinetry by the door width and you will see the frame as in Darbuka's pic.

You have to explain to me how that differs from what I said, please. cabinets depth and panels width (that, if need be, can be different on the fridge and on the cabinets) can make the built in panel ready fridge flush. If that is not the case, please explain why.

Because even if the panels are deeper only the frame sits flush in the cabinetry. The door does not on a built in model. It sits proud of the cabinetry.

Again, the Dacor above is 24" deep, the depth of the cabinets I am buying including front doors is 25". I get 1" panels in front of the fridge and its flush. Seems to me again that you just need to check the depth of the fridge and the cabinets and you see if with panels you get flush. Again, no structural or technical difference between built-in and fully integrated. If there is one, please explain.

We can tell you and show you, but we can’t understsnd for you. Go to a cabinet showroom and stare at it until you get it. This is going to be a 10K mistake otherwise. If it isn’t already. Because the cabinets have to be designed for things correctly, starting 6 months back. And with the kitchen designer coordinating all of this. Not a cabinet seller. Not a homeowner. That's a guaranteed set your money on fire result.

Refer to the photos I posted at the top of this thread.

@venexiano Your best bet is to go to a few kitchen cabinet and large appliance showrooms that have various installations on display so you can see the difference. If you're in the middle of a kitchen remodel, talk to your kitchen designer about whether you can make the Dacor look the way you want it to. They should be able to guide you. And even after you have all your ducks in a row pre construction, the quality of installation is key to a successfully integrated look so be sure your installer knows what they're doing.