Double nah.

Haven't yet noticed any shortages here in Va, so far so good, our ports are running relatively smoothly.

I bought a turkey a couple weeks ago, I think. I saw them and just grabbed one. Glad I bought a really small one.

I don’t participate in ”the sky is falling” mania.

Our Costco (Tampa) has plenty of coffee. its too early to expect Turkey, I didn’t look.

If we can't get a small turkey, we'll just have baked stuffed lobsters...

One advantage with lobster is that everyone can have white meat.

Not being able to buy 4 turkeys at once is no cause for hoarding. Turkeys are not a basic requirement, they're a luxury, like Christmas gifts. Save your hoarding for when they're running out of important basics. In fact, stores limit seasonal items all the time - much ado about nothing.

Thank you Rusty. You took the words right out of my mouth.

Seagrass, if I start walking right now from Worcester, I'll be at your house in time for stuffed lobster by Thanksgiving! Yum! Please set an extra place.... =}

"Save your hoarding for when they're running out of important basics" Bad idea, a grocery store can empty out in a few hours and your odds are slim to none to get just one let alone a hoard.

Went to Walmart this week for a gallon of vinegar and only had 6 in stock so I picked up 2, this is how you do it. My wife grabbed 3 cans of coffee for her addictive hoard which will last her 8 months if needed.

"Bad idea, a grocery store can empty out in a few hours and your odds are slim to none to get just one let alone a hoard."

Good idea if you're plan is not to hoard! Really, that's what I was getting at, otherwise it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

OP was kinda tongue-in-cheek. Remember the toilet paper "shortage". As some have said above, it doesn't take much to start a panic. But there are rumblings on the web, and the MSM is full of stories we all have heard. I will be stocking on coffee though lol. And maybe ice cream. Oh, and peanut butter...

If the turkeys are on sale our stores limit them also. I noticed that Aldis has some this week, but they mostly have them all year. Our stores don't start advertising them until after Halloween. I have 2 breasts in the freezer if needed and hubby is going to shoot a wild one to fry up on Thanksgiving. I haven't noticed any Thanksgiving items shortage in the stores.

I'm glad they have the purchase limits. That's what caused the toilet paper shortage! I did post earlier about a possible turkey shortage, but didn't mean to imply that there was going to be turkey panic. Just passing along what the department manager said to me at my preferred store. I'm sure I could pick one up somewhere else if needed.

If there should be a shortage or a "hoardage" of coffee, I would take that as a signal to stop drinking coffee. I've been thinking about stopping anyway. I only drink 6 oz a morning, so I think I could taper it down to nothing before I run out.

What I understand is that the turkeys are likely to be larger this year, because they're having to wait longer to get them to the processors, and they're still eating and growing.

I heard that, too, carol. And, they are older, for whatever effect that has on their meet. And of course the cost of raising them rises, because farmers are feeding them longer.

Then there is the rising cost of packaging them.

"If there should be a shortage or a "hoardage" of coffee" It's not "if" and is happening now. Just google "coffee shortage" and you will see.

I don't drink coffee but I do eat food, so I'm good on food for a long long time.

A turkey is a luxury? Really?

Which Costco was that? I go to the one on Forsyth. They have been limiting TP and paper towels to 2 for a while now. I don't drink coffee so no worry there. I can't imagine a huge run on turkeys-how many can one person store? DH mentioned he had trouble getting turkeys for his company thru his normal supplier. Aldi's had a limit of 2 Butterball turkeys last week. Same this week, but now they are 40 cents higher per lb.

We drink half-caf and it is always hard to find, and rarely on sale when the other kinds are, so we always stock up anyway.

Coffee might be a problem, but Turkeys are not coming over on ships. So why a shortage? They are raised in the US farms.

CNN was talking about the shortages and interviewed the large liquor store owners about the shortage of wine and spirits. The owner of a large liquor store said he never knows what delivery he'll get and customers are frustrated. Unless you are buying domestic spirits, you might be in trouble for the holidays. Suggests buying your wines and any liquors that have to come in by ship, now if you can find them.

But, coffee, I will start stocking up on, just in case. Heard prices are going up because they had bad storms and bad weather conditions in coffee growing areas causing a shortage of beans. Can't risk running out of coffee!

Jane

Well, kevin, if your wife thinks there is a shortage and therefor bought 8 months worth, I'd call that hoarding. I do my stock ups when there is plenty, not when there is paltry product. As I said, I can cut back my coffee until I don't drink any at all. No problem.

Cutting back on coffee sounds like a good idea. I already do not drink any at all, and I'm very happy not to have that addiction.

I don't need to have turkey for TG either, but when I do have it, I prefer dark meat, which there is less of, but it tends to be moister and have more flavor. I have a good supply of chicken thighs in my freezer, and I like that better than turkey.

Some years we have Alaskan king crab legs, and I like those better than lobster. We tend to celebrate TG a day or two late, and so I can shop after TG is over and just buy whatever I happen to find.

buy full caf and a can of d caf ... mix n split ... two cans

I was able to find the basics at Costco. a few weeks back they allowed 2 paper towels per customer but it had to be two different brands. Ha, good way to push theur Kirkland.

This week, my favorite Scott was there but didn’t fill the area like it usually does.

Not sure if they had the same deal, as I didn’t need it.

"Stock up" seriously!! People can't get what they legit need for events and you are encouraging people to hoard what they don't!! How is that helping????/

"turkey for TG either, but when I do have it, I prefer dark meat"

My sister and I are like Jack Spratt and his wife -- my sister and her partner will only eat white meat, and I will only eat dark meat, which means I get free turkey if I go to their place for thanksgiving. I buy a lot of turkey wings and thighs, which I eat year-round.

Just a general statement - a month or two months’ supply of whatever is Stocking Up. An eight months’ supply 😳 is Hoarding and a real problem both for the Hoarder and the rest of us who don’t have any.

IMO, of course.

^^^OK, then I must be hoarding beef then because I still have 70 lbs. of hamburger, 1/2 a brisket, a 10 lb. rib roast, a Pikes Peak roast, some sirloin, and soup bones left from last years steer and we just took another two steer in to process on Wednesday. I'm trying to sell off some of the hamburger to make room for the new. Any takers..on sale for $5/lb?

I also have around 50-60 rolls of TP scattered between our 3 bathrooms at the house and another dozen plus at the lake cabin.

My name is Jack and I'm a hoarder.

Turkeys -- last year it was hard to find medium or small ones around here, but there were plenty of 20+ pounders available. Sounds like it might be the same this year. Oh well -- two large, or three medium -- I can live with either.

For me, hoarding is buying cart-full of one item even though you know well and good it's in short supply and other people need it too. Stocking up and/or taking advantage of sale prices on items you will use eventually is fine.

I don't think having a lot of something equals hoarding. Not at all. I think it becomes hoarding if the gathering & storing occurs during a time when there is not enough to go around, to meet ordinary needs.

And really, Jack, raising your own beef and putting it away in your freezer is not hoarding.

Hoarding is about why you have a lot, not if you have a lot. Either 1) there's a psychological need to never be without X, or 2) there's a real or imagined anticipation of a severe shortage. Three possible reasons, and 2 of them are unrealistic.

If you have a dressed side of animal or two in your freezer because you just killed it hunting or just slaughtered livestock, or because that's the only way to buy whatever specialty you want, that's not hoarding, that's preserving a "bulk purchase". If you've got that side of meat in your freezer because you live a an hour or so (in good weather) from the nearest butcher, that's stocking up. If you have a side or two of beef in your freezer because you think that next month there won't be any meat available to buy, then that's hoarding.

Just ordered 6 cases of TP, 96 rolls per case, 576 rolls in total. :-)

I agree with littlebug - buying enough for one or two months is stocking up. Beyond that is hoarding. A surprising number who do this are driven by different kinds of doomsday paranoia, believe it or not. Stocking up is one thing, to buy in excess of reasonable not too far off needs with the result that the selfishness needlessly deprives others of buying the item is sad.

We're at the opposite end of the spectrum, we buy regular amounts when we're out. One package of TP or paper towels, food we plan to eat in the coming week or less, and that's about it. A few frozen veggies and fish in the freezer, no more than one replacement item of things regularly used in the pantry. It cuts down on clutter and promotes eating fresh food.

Nah.

I hope nobody is falling for this hype again. What retailers went through 18-20 months ago was horrible! Could not keep stock on the shelves because people were greedy and hoarding then yelling at stock people and cashiers because there wasn't any stock on the shelves. Some people coming in the store 2,3 or 4x a day for the same things! I would rather share my starvation with my neighbours than sit here being a greedy person eating huge meals while others can't find a can of beans to eat.

I bought ZERO rolls of toilet in the year of 2020, NOT one damn roll but in the words of those here I'm a hoarder because I prepare. I don't believe the nanny state will supply my needs in a serious national crisis and prefer to be well supplied. Before the pandemic I had 360 rolls in stock because I was prepared so you're welcome, I left the TP on the shelves for those who can't prepare for next week let alone a year. Not one purchase of a N95 mask either because I had them in stock BEFORE the pandemic! So you're welcome again.

A prepper doesn't wait until things get bad before stocking up, they do it every week and rotate food stock and I've been doing it since 2008. We aren't hoarders and when things run short we turn to our supplies with no need to burden a short supply of whatever. Get it straight, I'm a prepper. and I grow, buy, can, freeze, mylar bag and freeze dry foods continuously with no need to hoard when things become scarce.

Whomever stated having more than a month or two of provisions is hoarding will be sadly reminded how mistaken they were if things get desperate, and it won't be me cleaning off the shelves before them at the stores because I'm already prepared, but for you it will be to late. Sorry.

We have extra food for a few weeks, not months. Today I noticed the baking shelves were pretty empty at a local ALDI.

So do you think something is happening summersrhytm? I'm making a big pot of ham and beans next week and I already have my beans and will repurchase what I use in the soup later. We will eat some, freeze some and I will also freeze dry some which will last 20-30 years. Who gives a bean, right. Well this years Dry bean crop was a wash out with a 50% drop in production over 2020. If the beans run short I won't be the one hoarding, I already have my beans so you can buy by share of beans. My gift to you.

I am neither a prepper nor a hoarder.  We had our worst shortages here in Australia back at the very beginning of the pandemic.  Toilet paper was the biggie, followed by rice, flour and canned goods.  The toilet paper shortage came to an end when manufacturers upped production and supermarkets revamped their "just in time" model.  Now, if panic buying strips the shelves, they're restocked the next day.  Same happens with canned goods.  There have been periodic disruptions to the supply chain since, caused by Covid outbreaks in meat packing plants and supermarket distribution centers, so one's favourite items might not be available, but there are always alternatives. If I can't get long grain white rice, I buy jasmine.  No one is going to starve. And we never had a coffee shortage because local roasters who couldn't sell to the restaurant trade sold to supermarkets instead. I'd say I have about two weeks supply of the necessities (of which coffee beans are one - but who wants old beans?) and the versatility to deal with shortages in the optional items. No beef?  Guess we'll have chicken for dinner. Or pasta.

Shortage is alway companied by price jump, I want to be prepared in case there is shortage of day to day items. Just ordered two bags of 40 lbs dog food and 100 cow ears .My dog should be all set for a while. :-) What about hair dye? Last year there was a shortage of that I think.

I didn't read all the comments, but I stopped at our huge grocery store to pick up my weeks veggies, something that I can't horde, and was shocked at the empty shelves. There were no fresh mushrooms, I have never seen that. Many many empty shelves. I have to say I was surprised.

Sleeperbles, mushrooms and produce are not hoarded, that's a supply chain issue.

"What about hair dye? Last year there was a shortage of that I think."

I know a lot of women who "suddenly" turned gray last year because they couldn't get their hair coloured for ages. I was very glad I'd transitioned to gray years before and didn't have that shocking change.

Ugh, I don't want to go down the panic road again. I hope people don't get too much into that mindset, but fear it is all too easy. I'm seeing a few shortages/delivery issues locally already, but can't say that it went away completely since the beginning of covid.

I always stay a little long on products, but have added one or two of certain things in recent times- just to stay an extra month long. I have been expecting to NOT get a turkey this year- either I will miss the delivery or the birds available will be too big. If we can't get a turkey that's smaller, we will get a chicken. If we can't get a chicken, we already have a tiny ham in the freezer... it's all good...

I'm glad the turkeys are going to be larger. I like to give the kids doggie bags and I like left overs. Every other year I had a hard time finding the larger ones. That is what people want around here for their large gathering. Last year the largest I could find was only 14 pounds.

Couldn't you have purchased two smaller ones if there were no big ones to be found?