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Please help with awkward kitchen layout (1890s home)

_lmnop
12 days ago
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Thank you again for all the comments, advice and encouragement. I appreciate hearing that a functional kitchen can be achieved even in an old house with a weird layout.

First floor layout (not to scale):


Kitchen with dimensions labeled, but not drawn to scale:



After we measured the space including the closets we realized that we may be able to get an L-shaped kitchen if we lose the current doorway to the bathroom/mudroom, which is a possibility. We would need to create a hallway to the bathroom/mudroom through the scullery/butler's pantry and would lose the countertop that is shown below the chimney in the first floor layout. We planned to take down the chimney anyway.

New L-shaped layout idea:





We are a family of four with two young kids (6 & 7). We cook & eat at home together pretty much every night. Our kitchen is also used for schoolwork & kids art projects, etc. and is definitely the heart of our home. I prefer sitting at a kitchen table and don't want to be lined up at an island for eating, but would compromise for an L shaped island for seating. We need 4 seats at the island. We have a basement and are not on a slab. The ceiling height in the main kitchen is 9 ft. and 8 ft in the scullery. We don't know if the wall above the closets is load-bearing, but believe that it is. The wall above the current range is load bearing.

Appliances we're considering:

LG Fridge (narrower to fit into 36" cabinetry) : Dims: 32-3/4" width x 35-1/2" depth x 69-7/8" height

If we need a counter-depth fridge: GE Fridge

Range: Dims: Standard height; 31.5" width and the cooktop goes over the countertop on the R/L sides

Microwave (we've been thinking over-the-range, but may be able to accommodate one on an upper shelf. We don't want below the counter or a drawer.)

Dishwasher: Bosch something or other. Standard size

Sink: double bowl undermount. If we have the sink at the island, we would likely use something like this trash pullout under the sink so we can fit a seat at the end of the island. My spouse thinks having the DW and sink in the island will be tight and said he doesn't mind a sink that faces the wall, but I'm not sure about that?? He does most of the cleanup so his words carry weight. Sort of like this one, maybe.

Original post:

We are trying to figure out a new layout for our kitchen renovation in an 1890s awkward kitchen. We'd don't want to do an addition and I would prefer not to open up the kitchen to the living room and dining room. We need to keep the entry to the bathroom/mudroom and the entrance to the right of the closets. The three windows are 60" tall and 18" off the floor and we'd like to keep them as they're original.


The image shows our current layout. The main kitchen area is about 13'x13' and the butler's pantry is 8'x7' or so. Our first thought was to move the appliances into butler's pantry with the fridge, dw, & sink on one wall and the range next to pass through on the opposite wall. We would then extend the countertop from the sink to the right with a long peninsula extending into the main kitchen area. Our next thought was to have the dw & sink more or less where they are with the same peninsula extending to the right, range next to the pass through, and build in the fridge where it is with a pantry to the right (we'd need to lose the radiator in the corner). I'd love to use the big area for the main kitchen and keep the butler's pantry separate, if that is possible, but there are just so many openings! Your suggestions are appreciated & please let me know if additional photos would be helpful. Thanks!

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