Need a new climbing or rambler flowers
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Climber/Rambler with contrasting color or form to Mortimer Sacker
Comments (2)Hi Jeannie, I've been thinking about MAC for a long, long time. It might work in that spot if we were younger here and more able to stay after the rose all the time and if we were willing to let it work on the obelisk without too many horizontal turns requiring much bending. The problem is that MAC isn't very flexible once a cain gets some age on it, and will do its own thing, sort of set in concrete, if you don't keep at it. We'd have to train it frequently to avoid the walk path beside the camellias as well as to keep it from totally taking over the obelisk and choking out the Mortimer Sackler. We're probably not up to that much rose work nowadays, though I do love the rose and want it somewhere where it wouldn't have to share a limited amount of supported climbing space with another rose. I've thought about it more strongly for one or two other spots where its own growth ideas might line up better with ours and not take too much work on our part. The same considerations apply to Lamarque, but the difference in flexibility might be a real difference. Once or twice a year of pulling the rose away from the camellias would probably work for Lamarque, but might come too late for MAC. Both roses are such vigorous growers that they'd be expected to outgrow the obelisk and start to claim other areas by year three. With Lamarque a discreet peg here and there when you get around to doing it might work? With MAC, my thinking is that perhaps you'd better get around to doing it now, or perhaps get handy with a saw later. That said, I still do keep thinking about MAC. What a wonderful rose it is! Thanks for thinking about this, Jeannie. Best wishes, Mary...See MoreNeed a climbing or rambler rose for pergola
Comments (9)Ms. Lee, I'm sorry to be a stick in the mud, but I recommend a change of plan. From your altitude, location and description, I think large climbing roses are going to have a very hard time getting very far up either of those structures. I'm in 5B Fort Collins, and I have 4 New Dawn, mentioned above by Domino, which are now 6 or 7 years old. At best they've been only half cane hardy, staying alive 3 or 4 feet up from the ground (when covered) and most years, pretty well dying to the ground. Before that I had Don Juan on this small pergola, which was totally hopeless. I haven't given up. This winter I've covered the entire pergola (about 5x4 x 7 foot tall) with plastic and I've put one of those pipe freeze heater cables in there with the roses. The pipe heater only turns on when temp drops below 35F. There are some of those really hearty roses, but they're not that pretty, slow growing, and they're not re-blooming. Maybe there's a variety out there somewhere that can withstand winters here that is still pretty and blooms through the summer, and gets big enough to cover a medium size pergola. Maybe I'll figure out which variety that is over the next decade or two. But I'm not going to get my hopes up. Zone 5 in Wisconsin is a TOTALLY different story than Zone 5 here in Colorado. It's the extremely dry air, bright hot winter sunshine, and dramatic temperature fluctuations throughout our winters that desiccate the rose stems. I know I'm going to get pelted for this, because it's moderately invasive, but my recommendation is that you plant a couple of Virginia Creepers toward the back of your large pergola. These guys will fairly well cover the pergola in 4 or 5 years. It's very hardy, and has little miniature grape like fruit that hangs down, and looks nice. It also has nice red color in the fall. At the front of the pergola either don't have anything at all on those front 2 columns, or maybe put some medium size trellises there and plant some of the larger size clematis there, or maybe instead plant some honeysuckle. Then maybe put some regular (not climbing) roses in front of that, or nearby. For your pergola over the pond, I think I'd put honeysuckle on two of the corners and large clematis on the other two. This one is small enough, a really hearty grape vine might be able to cover it, (maybe valiant) but since there's a pond under it, that would make it rather tricky to pick the grapes! Good luck, Bruce...See MoreNew austin Rambler
Comments (15)Nice update, summersrhythm. I have a place I'd like to plant The Albrighton Rambler but have held off doing so as the disease resistance is rated as average on DA UK site and rebloom is "good" - for a remonant variety that means "not often". Not a stab a DA just an observation. How healthy has it been for you? How large thus far?...See MoreRecommendation for rambler with tiny, pale flowers for small arbor
Comments (30)Thank you so much for the recommendations! So I am confused about whether or not noisettes are a good fit for the Pacific Northwest climate. Yes, Seattle is constantly wet during the months of October to March. But from April to September, the weather is quite cooperative. In other words, during the months when roses bloom prolifically , moisture is not that big of an issue. On the other hand, during the winter months, because it is wet but warm, our roses keep blooming, all the while the leaves and buds get infected terribly with black spots and powdery mildew. Renae does seem packed with ideal characteristics. I will have to look into it. @ Irisgal - Thank you for posting your pictures :) Rogue Valley Roses website says Felicia is 4-5 feet. Is this big enough to eventually train it to climb an arbor? I do like the small blooms on Cornelia! They are both beautiful....See More
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoI just planted two Zephirine Drouhin climbing roses into 21" pots to train onto a back driveway arch this past summer (Temple 8b). They shipped dry root and have done marvelously so far. They are loving the semi-sunny spot, have tripled in size, are producing lots of canes I'm already training to the arch. Best of all, these are almost thornless roses (why I chose this particular rose). Here's a shot I took of the outer one yesterday. I think they will make a nice display on this unused driveway to replace a wisteria I removed off this arch in June (which was invading my roof/gutter & required way to frequent pruning for someone my age).
EDITED: to add photos I forgot to upload.
joeywyomingzone4
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KittyNYz6
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoEden is lovely, but has thorns.
check out ”Eden thread,”
https://www.houzz.com/discussions/4013161/eden-climbing-rose-blooming-question
I posted my photos end of thread. My favorite climber.
I have many climbets and all have moderate thorns. Honeymoon CL is a creamy white… has few thorns… maybe 7-8 ft -very hardy & lovely…totally my favorite white and happy climber!
I counted that I have 15 climbers…Aloha, 2 Eden, Red Eden, Honeymoon, Strawberry Hill, Kiss Me Kate-pink, Laguna, Pomponella, Cinderella Fairy Tale-a princess light pink rose, Grahm Thomas, Kiss of Desire, Generous Gardner, Jasmina, James Galway. I had Handel & New Dawn-but removing them.
Some above have kess thorns… I will have to look closer…
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago@Kathleen A. I just bought (received this week) two very healthy 'Major Wheeler' coral huneysuckles to take to our cabin property in Gause to plant out. It will be placed along a 50' stretch of chain-link fence the front porch faces where it will have as much room to sprawl as 40 acres if it wants. :) I don't worry about plant space needs down there much. LOL. This photo was taken when they arrived, they have already put on long shoots/branches, so I think they will do nicely for me.
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