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Comments (23)All this anti room-sharing and bath sharing! Good grief! For decades, families ALL shared ONE bathroom and managed, regardless of sex. I'm certainly not suggesting that we go back to one bathroom houses, but the idea that teenage opposite sex siblings cannot share a bath is ludicrous. Buy the girl a dressing table where she blows her hair dry and keeps any cosmetics. Makes time in the bath far less and keeps all her "stuff" out of it as well. My son and daughter shared a jack-and-jill bath just fine. DD now shares a bath with her two teenage boys - she has more control over them and their idea of bath hygiene than she does over DH who has the en suite to himself. My children even shared a room until DD was about 7 and kicked her brother out - wanted her room to be "girls-only" when friends came by. My two grandsons have always shared a room and have never requested a change. They have two extra BRs in the house so they could easily each have his own, but they like having each other. Younger GS is dreading his brother going off to college next year - can't imagine him not being there in the room with him. It's all these attitudes that have caused colleges to spend a fortune on dorms with the majority being singles, and at some schools, each with its own bath. Children no longer know how to share. Makes me wonder if separate bedrooms for married couples may become the wave of the future for these non-sharers!...See MoreFloor Plan Critique
Comments (13)Hi Jae T, Congratulations on buying a home in the Bay Area!! Having moved from there 2 years ago and experienced the bidding wars and ever escalating prices, I know this is a huge feat in and of itself so congrats!! Knowing how expensive land and new construction are in the Bay Area I think renovating and adding onto your home makes sense and it sounds like you have a team of professionals ready to help you through it. As for your floor plan question, a few suggestions: * I would suggest losing the half bath and giving that space back to the kitchen pantry and master bath/ closet or creating a mud room/ pantry entry off the garage. Bathrooms and kitchens are the most expensive remodels and it would definitely not be ideal to have people walk through a back of house space like the pantry to get to the powder bath. * I would recommend speaking with your Architect about removing the walls around your existing kitchen and rethinking the layout in order to create a larger, more open kitchen/ dining/ living space. * Also, love the office opening onto the master bedroom * You have likely already done this but I'd speak with your Architect about phasing. There may be a better way to approach this so you aren't paying people to remobilize on site 5 separate times or going in for 5 separate permits to the city. Hope this helps, best of luck with the renovation !...See MoreFloor Plan critique
Comments (27)Hi Gwen, you have a truly amazing house. Considering the large area of the property, I would say your floor plan could be a lot better. Here are some points to consider: The dining area in your floor plan faces the aisle of the kitchen instead of the bar, this might make working in the kitchen uncomfortable for some people when a crowd is eating at the dining table. In addition, the outdoor is not properly connected with the indoors. To solve these issues it might be better to place the kitchen & dining area as shown below. This orientation can feel more welcoming, and gives access to the porch directly through the kitchen, making barbecue parties easier, more social & less messy (you won't have to cross the great room all the way to kitchen). You could also add a countertop in the back porch with a pass-through window in the kitchen (I added some pics from houzz illustrating that). "What do you guys think about flipping the bed so it would be against the door wall and having the sitting area where the bed is now" That would be really nice if it's possible to flip the fire place as well. It will feel cozier as you can view 2 walls from the bed with big windows & a fireplace. As the previous comments suggested, there's a privacy issue in the plan. In the case of the kids' bedrooms, you could omit a WIC as bpath suggested, or reconfigure the WICs as shown. The added hallway would give access to the master bedroom without needing to go all the way through the great room. However, if direct access isn't an issue for you, feel free to omit the hallway (in green). If it's possible to get a two-sided fireplace between the great room and the rest of the living area on the left, then do give it a thought. It will be more functional than where it is right now, as it will serve 2 spaces efficiently. You could also add something where the fireplace is right now to add more fun, a "coffee bar" for example. Regarding all the living spaces in the house (great room, dining, living, etc) I do agree with the other comments that they might be a wastage of space, unless your lifestyle requires them to be so big. Why don't you think of some of your activities that need a separate space? It's a big house, perhaps get a home theater instead, or a library (or a secret room!), sunroom, gym...etc Lastly make sure that you really want an open plan, all the noises (& smells) from the kitchen can be really annoying to the rest of the house. If you do want it open plan, then place the kitchen on the leeward side of the house, or else the wind will contribute in spreading the smells from the kitchen to all other rooms. A pass-through window: https://www.houzz.com/photos/orchard-lane-exterior-shabby-chic-style-deck-boston-phvw-vp~160950769 https://www.houzz.com/photos/orchard-lane-exterior-shabby-chic-style-boston-phvw-vp~160950774...See MoreCabin/Home Floor Plan Critique
Comments (27)"I fail to understand why an architect would frown on having a client come to them with ideas." While I don't encourage clients to come to me with a floor plan, it happens all the time, whether a canned internet plan, something drawn out on graph paper or a SketchUp model. And if they already have that I don't say "Don't show me that!", I take a look at it but probably unknown to the person is I'm looking at it differently than the way they are probably looking at it. I'm looking at it as more of a general diagram of adjacencies and desired relationships as opposed to, as you wrote "The dining room looks small, and we will confirm layout of kitchen to make sure all appliances fit." . Really a sort of bubble diagram if you know what those are. That way I'm leaving open in my mind the potential for possibilities that the owner hasn't considered. And typically we end up with something different than the floor plan they brought in my door. But back to your quote above.....coming in with an exact floor plan is a little bit of a slippery slope because the owner may be overly committed to it "But we've spent MONTHS on this!", etc. which is ok but then they don't need me and I'll refer them to a permit drafter because any good architect's job is to look at alternatives. A good architect, when given the chance, will provide a design that can give a client everything they want, but often in ways completely unexpected. But for that to happen it takes a critical element necessary on the part of the client in every successful project and that element is trust and some of the things you wrote above maybe indicates a closed mind to different possibilities and alternatives but I'm only speculating. Often during our initial meeting, the client will reveal their ability or inability to trust others. If I feel the element of trust is not there they will likely be referred to a permit drafter. A creative person should explore other approaches with you in the spirit of "That's great but have you thought of this.......". But for that to be carried forward successfully it takes a trusting client to not only allow the architect to expand on alternative ideas but to objectively look at other approaches in a collaborative effort with the architect. And that's an intangible that all successful projects are born out of. Just be ready to expect any preconceived ideas to be questioned if you do in fact go with a creative partner. They may turn out to be perfectly valid but at least they've been evaluated against alternates as any good architect should do. Finally, regarding preconceived ideas, I've quoted on this board before these two quotes by two creative people..... Henry Ford observed "If I had asked people what they wanted they would have told me "A faster horse". And Steve Jobs mused “A lot of times, people don't know what they want until you show it to them. Everyone wanted an iPhone when they first appeared, but no one could have described what they wanted before seeing one". So put trust in your architect to carry you through the process in the spirit of Mr. Ford and Mr. Jobs and you'll have a home that is the very best. And speaking of the best, here's wishing you the best of luck with your project. Exciting times!...See Moreptreckel
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