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More royal chatter…anyone else think it’s odd…

eld6161
25 days ago

…..…..that we have not seen photos of Harry and Meghan’s daughter? And, nothing in the news about the lack of a photo?

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  • Kswl 2
    19 days ago

    There is a lot of vicious anger directed at the Sussexes that seems oddly personal and triumphant. I don’t know what all that is about and, frankly, do not want to know.

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  • palimpsest
    19 days ago

    Speaking about stuff that shows up in my feed, I regularly get stuff about Julia Styles "working a 9-5 job", the Kardashians, whatever happened to the people on Storage Wars or some show, a whole bunch of stuff I have no interest in at all.

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  • palimpsest
    19 days ago

    I think there is a weird sentiment that if you are in a group against which there is prejudice, that if you are successful or seem reasonably well adjusted that the prejudice or bias or the way that you have been treated "doesn't count" because you are successful or relatively well adjusted-- as if success or accomplishment just makes it go away. Actually it's just that some people are resilient enough or smart enough or perhaps have been put on a trajectory because of money or family support that makes them relatively successful despite the bias and prejudice.

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  • nini804
    19 days ago

    Do y’all not watch any of the national morning news shows? Read your Apple News feed? Stand in line at the grocery store? 😂 They are everywhere!

    I reassert that my dislike of Harry & Meghan is not rascist, and not even that deep. As someone said regarding the Oprah interview, ”It’s difficult to feel sorry for a millionaire complaining to a billionaire about how hard it is to be a princess.” 😂

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  • Anna Devane
    19 days ago

    May i add I have grown to dislike Harry as he has become a pompous hypocrite. There is no racism there on my part.

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  • Kswl 2
    19 days ago

    I don’t watch morning news shows, or any tv news for that matter, I don't subscribe to Apple news and I have my groceries delivered. I guess that means I get to make up my own mind about any number of subjects without undue influence from hoi polloi. 😎

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  • mtnrdredux_gw
    19 days ago
    last modified: 19 days ago

    ”It’s difficult to feel sorry for a millionaire complaining to a billionaire about how hard it is to be a princess.”

    That's a funny line!

    Do y’all not watch any of the national morning news shows?

    Nope, none of them, not for years. I almost never watch broadcast TV at all. It doesn't even occur to me to do so. DH watches sports, sometimes we both watch Sharktank.I do watch MSNBC sometimes, or CNN but even those, not regularly.

    Read your Apple News feed? Honestly not sure what that is, always ignore it. I read the NYT all day long on my phone, and the WSJ.

    Stand in line at the grocery store? The stores I go to do not have tabloids, which never even occurred to me until now. I don't think Whole Foods does, either.

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  • palimpsest
    18 days ago

    ”It’s difficult to feel sorry for a millionaire complaining to a billionaire about how hard it is to be a princess.”


    Of course the Essential Fallacy of this statement is that it actually is easy to be a princess, or that having a million or billion dollars automatically makes you a good or happy person who has an easy carefree life. It was probably Meghan's essential fallacy, and it is one of the fallacies of society that causes so much discontent.

  • nini804
    18 days ago

    Drugstore maybe, mtn? 😂 We don’t have fancy drugstores here…they are chock full of US Weekly. We do have Whole Foods…but I never noticed that they don’t carry trashy tabloids in the checkout…I should probably elevate my shopping experience & go there more often. 😂

    My Apple news has stories from WaPo, NYT, WSJ, USAToday, even magazines like the New Yorker, the Atlantic, National Review. It’s all condensed onto one app, and one subscription. It’s awesome. I do have a full subscription to WSJ bc it’s my favorite and I want to read every article, not just the selected. For people who love to read all different viewpoints, it’s a great thing!

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  • nini804
    18 days ago

    I guess that means I get to make up my own mind about any number of subjects without undue influence from hoi polloi. 😎


    ^^

    That is probably true and a good thing…except for that it might make one less able to understand the viewpoint of other Americans who DO watch GMA, who do see tabloid stories about the Royal family (and other topics,) and who get news from other sources than CNN (or whatever.) It makes me less likely (although not perfect, lol,) to demonize fellow Americans when I have made myself aware of different news sources. Reading articles on Fox news really helps me understand how different views can form, and that while *I* think my stances on things are the best, lol, I can see how others may come to different conclusions. It’s really helped me to be more gracious to folks with different views than me.

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  • l pinkmountain
    18 days ago

    What I find odd is that my comment was censored. Not sure why, or how long this one will last. I mentioned that I don't follow royals but am an anglophile so I do see some thing about them. I liked Meghan's wedding and used it as inspiration for my own, but only watched because I hadn't seen a wedding in a while and thought it would be interesting to be reminded of what format they followed. I also joined the Episcopal church partly because of the wonderful sermon by Bishop Curry. I also said that I didn't find it odd that parents would want to parse the exposure their children would have with media, even if they are quasi media celebrities. What about that was problematic to get it censored? Perhaps because I mentioned a couple of other example families that had large extended entourages utilizing their connection to a famous person to promote their business ventures? I'd hardly call that controversial. Whether one buys the stuff should be of little interest to anyone not interested in the products which would include me.


    Really odd that folks are getting a narcissist vibe from Meghan. I'm not at all, and I have a huge narcissist in my family so I know what it looks like. The vibe I get is that they don't want all the royal bs any more than Diana did, just want to figure out how to do their service work without it. I think Harry and also Meghan figured that being MINOR royals no one would really care all that much about what they did or did not do. If anyone gives off a narcissist vibe it is Charles and his entourage. Also Meghan's father, which is probably why she doesn't have much to do with them.


    I felt sorry for Diana way back when she got engaged and they asked Charles if he was in love, and he replied "Whatever love is." And Diana said it herself, "There were three of us in the marriage." Poor Harry lost his mother so very young, and had to rely on his father whom I'm sure was way more interested in his own public image than his sons. Also don't get a wedge vibe when Meghan asked Charles to walk her down the aisle. I think it was just plain impatience for all the bs seeing as again, they were minor royals. Do you think it is easy to be part of Charles' orbit? He'll be king, William will take his place eventually and so on down the line, no signs of any discord there. The rest of the family are entitled to chart their own careers. It isn't easy to disengage from a high profile dysfunctional family . . . so nothing about this seems weird to me, not my business.

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  • olliesmom
    18 days ago
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    I never cared for MM at all. I could see right through her character-wise, from the beginning. What is funny, I never realized she was black until people accusing other people of being racist who disliked her. Since I never cared for her, I really didn't get that much into Harry and M. I did watch the Oprah interview, and found out I cared for both of them, even less.

    eta: I don't live in bubble, and read multiple news articles, even those I don't agree with, yes, it's hard at times, but I think it is important to think outside your box and to know the world we are dealing with now.

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  • Judi
    18 days ago

    We do have Whole Foods…but I never noticed that they don’t carry trashy tabloids in the checkout…I should probably elevate my shopping experience & go there more often.


    No tabloids at Whole Foods, Trader Joe's, Fresh Market, or Sprouts.

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  • Tina Marie
    18 days ago

    What is funny, I never realized she was black until people accusing other people of being racist who disliked her. I didn't realize she was black for some time either.


    I never cared for MM at all. I could see right through her character-wise, from the beginning.

    Really? I think the royal family is probably very careful that we see what they want us to see. I also think that people in that kind of position probably have a "public" image and and a "private" one.


    As for living in a bubble, I occasionally watch local news but very little world news, nor do I have (or want) the Apple News Feed. I don't think that means anyone is "living in a bubble". Anyone who gets online probably sees news updates. It seems to me that the same news is played over and over and over. You only need to check in once and a while to know what is taking place. I also think it is very important to be careful where you get your news from.



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  • Bunny
    18 days ago

    I also joined the Episcopal church partly because of the wonderful sermon by Bishop Curry.

    I Pinkmountain, I joined years before Bishop Curry's sermon, but I was thrilled to run into him backstage at our bishop's installation in 2019.

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  • palimpsest
    18 days ago

    I also did not realize she was biracial at first. I don't call her black either because she is not, she's mixed race. The mixed race people in my family identity as mixed race, Not by what their non-Caucasian component is.

    I feel like her leitmotif has become how she has been discriminated against because of race. I just came across something today when I was looking up her age where she blames her lack of success as an actress on racism. I don't know...if she had said she was not appointed a school principal on Long Island despite her credentials I would say sure thing, but how many people who go into acting are successful? 5%? How many successful actors have maybe one good role? I mean maybe she's just not that good. Even good actors may never be successful in a noticeable way.

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  • Feathers11
    18 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    I didn't realize MM was mixed race, either, until it was pointed out. Neither of them are on my radar, though. Editing to acknowledge "mixed race" per Palimpset's clarification. Thank you for that.

    Nini, do you subscribe to the Apple News Feed on your phone--is that what you're referring to? I see it available to subscribe to on my phone, but it looks too curated. I tend to not care for curated news. How does yours work, and can you pick and choose what it feeds you?

    I admittedly am far less knowledgeable about world affairs than I was 6-7 years ago. The prior administration and covid divisiveness caused me too much mental anguish that I've shut out most news sources. I'll catch up on Chicago news (my locale) once a week, and I read the NYT just to make sure WW3 doesn't start without my knowing. But otherwise, news makes me feel so hopeless, and celebrity news (like Harry and MM) doesn't warrant my time... although here I am reading a thread about them.

    I pay attention to "news" locally--here in my neighborhood. My city. Local issues where my vote and efforts matter. It seems we're all just going to end up in places with like-minded individuals eventually, anyway.

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  • cyn427 (z. 7, N. VA)
    18 days ago

    Just fyi: Hoi polloi means the common folk, the masses.

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  • Tina Marie
    18 days ago

    "I don't call her black either because she is not, she's mixed race" Sorry, Pal. I didn't realize and honestly, I don't think of her as any race, just as MM! No insult intended.

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  • Olychick
    18 days ago
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    "I never cared for MM at all. I could see right through her character-wise, from the beginning."

    I'm seriously impressed by your abilities.

    Although MM is mixed race, the haters will identify her has Black, because that's the part of her that is unacceptable to them.

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  • palimpsest
    18 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    By saying "I don't call her black" I am not trying to dictate what anybody else calls her, so no need to apologize. I an not exactly sure house she identifies herself. And her mother is also mixed race. I just know that the mixed race people in my family don't identify by only their non Caucasian component, or their caucasian component, but if they did or if they identified as white, that would be up to them.

    This was years ago, but there was a woman in our clinic who seemed to identify as black. I had thought that she was probably mixed race also with some Asian or Pacific islander, but one of her black co-workers said to me "Oh she's a quadroon you know what that is? and her children are octaroon because her husband is white". I was just surprised by the use of the antiquated and it's now offensive terminology. I guess it also speaks to what Olychick is saying because 1/4 black was enough to be "not white" especially a few decades ago.

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  • l pinkmountain
    18 days ago

    Racism is subtle and if you've not experienced it, of course you might be clueless. For example, in Pal's example, it is of course very difficult and unlikely that a person will achieve real and lasting success in the field of acting. At one time I considered it, and I have a cousin and two friends in the field. They have other means of making a living to supplement. The number who truly are successful is a very, very small percentage. That said, only someone totally unfamiliar and clueless to the challenges an "ethnic" actor might face would say it doesn't play a role. So it is one more significant challenge in your path. Tons of roles you would be considered "not right" for or a novelty casting or not having the right "look" or being relegated to certain roles. Ask any actor of color and they will tell you story after story of how that works. Not just skin color, accent, weight, height, etc. Can you rise above it. All actors of color try every day, in a whole host of creative ways. But it is naive to think that it isn't of great significance in their careers. Same with gender in certain fields and many other characteristics that put one outside the norm of the dominant culture. If you've never experienced such considerations, of course you are clueless as to how they work.


    I have hung around for a while in groups of mixed race professionally, and I am amazed at how the exact same behavior is viewed as of no notice or concern when a white person does it, and a faux paus or problem when done by someone of color. For example, I was in a teacher's meeting and a black teacher was being dissed for being unprofessional taking a personal call during a meeting (someone in her close family was having a health crisis and she excused herself to go out into the hall) and yet I have seen white teachers do the same thing for far less important reasons and no one even commented. There's an example of something called "micro-aggression" and it is a constant companion, more so I imagine if someone is high profile. I cannot believe the MINUTIA that people obsess over in a negative fashion when it comes to Meghan Markle. Particularly when one has to ask what possible concern it is of theirs. So what if Harry wants to take a break from being a royal. His mom wanted the exact same thing . . .

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  • nini804
    18 days ago

    Yes, @Feathers11…it’s on my phone. Each article has a thunbs up or down on the bottom that you can choose to get more articles like that, or from that source. But I purposefully don‘t do that so that I can get a true assortment. It always seems to lead with NYT or WaPo articles. As you go down the feed, lower and lower…there are some things from People and such, which is where I see all the Meghan & Harry coverage, ad nauseum. 😂


    I’m not saying its perfect…but for someone who loves reading, especially current events, it’s very economical. I still have separate subscriptions to WSJ and the New Yorker. I really enjoy all of the different viewpoints.

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  • palimpsest
    18 days ago
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    @I pinkmountain, I witness that sort of behavior by I couple people I work with on a regular basis. They think they are not racist (or sexist--in this case against men, or homophobic) because they work in an environment where the client population is primarily non-white and teach a student population which has a diverse population. But the behaviors of these people toward the students who are not the typical white female, which seems very subtle except that you see it repeatedly from year to year, is a constant: a slightly more vigilant level of supervision, the assumption that their behavior and skills and integrity are going to be not quite as good, the assumptions of ulterior motives and even the patronizing behavior toward those students who excel because in their own minds it is so unexpected. Of course they get accused of it periodically, which they vehemently deny, but when I listen to those denials of how they are Not biased, if feel like it becomes more convincing that they are--it's insidious and it's so ingrained I think they have very little idea that they actually do it, which of course is no excuse.

  • jmm1837
    18 days ago

    Does anyone remember how this all actually started? Meghan and Harry obviously found the rules and expectations of being working royals oppressive and far too restrictive. Who can blame them for that? I imagine living and working within the confines of "The Firm" must be quite stultifying, especially for an American unfamiliar with the quirks of the English upper crust.


    They decided (and announced) that they were going to back away from royal duties. Most junior members of the family are not "working royals" so this was hardly precedent-setting. The problem arose when it became apparent that they, particularly Harry, expected to retain all the perks of being a working royal (notably, taxpayer-provided security, royal titles and a small slice of the Sovereign grant) while performing none of the duties. They simply had no back-up plan when the Queen said no, they would not get that funding, any more than the other non-working royals do. And no, they could not continue to brand themselves as "Royal" and use their titles to promote commercial activities. Why the Queen's ruling should have been a surprise to them is anyone's guess. Every penny of taxpayer funding that goes to the Royals is subject to intense public and Parliamentary scrutiny, so using it to finance a non-working royal would simply never have been on the cards. In any case, unexpected or not, the ruling certainly disrupted whatever plans Harry and Meghan had, as did the refusal of the Canadian PM to fund security indefinitely at their BC retreat. So, off to California...


    All of this clearly caused a breakdown in the relationship between the Sussexes and the Palace, and Harry certainly hasn't let his resentment go unnoticed. To me, it is the sense of entitlement, and the reaction when Harry heard the word "no," that is at the heart of this. The Oprah interview was a calculated attempt to raise their profile in the US by presenting their side of the story, in the best possible light. Whether it was necessary to trash Harry's family in the process is a question mark for me. In any case, the interview achieved its objective: it got the fledging influencers the profile they sought, and it set off a PR bomb in the palace, unsurprisingly damaging family relationships along the way.


    Since then, it has been leak and counter-leak from both sides, lawsuits aplenty, and a few petulant comments from Harry about his father's shortcomings. It's all pretty distasteful, to say the least.


    My point is that I don't think racism is the driving factor in all of this. It may well have been an element in their decision to abandon royal life, though I personally think neither are suited to that sort of structured rigidity anyway. What I think we are seeing, though, is more about old, well- established royal traditions and values being confronted by the glitz, glamour and brashness of American-style fame and influence-building. I find neither very attractive or praiseworthy.


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  • eld6161
    Original Author
    18 days ago

    Jmm, I understand what you are saying and for the most part agree.

    But, they both also have quite a few good causes that they support and bring to the forefront.

  • jmm1837
    18 days ago
    last modified: 18 days ago

    "But, they both also have quite a few good causes that they support and bring to the forefront."

    I'm withholding judgment on that one. They have a pretty high profile when it comes to issues like climate change and mental health, but I haven't seen much of substance as of yet. It's early days in the process of course: they're just getting off the ground with Archewell so naturally their contributions to this point have been more symbolic of what they hope to achieve in the future. But to be fair, at the moment the Firm's actual contribution to good causes is much more substantial. I don't know if Americans are aware of this but Charles has been a strong supporter of environmental and ecological issues for years (and in fact, got a reputation in the UK as a bit of a "nutter" on that front - now he's looking prescient).

  • Oakley
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    Someone may have mentioned this before, during the Oprah interview which I refused to watch but read snippets of, Meghan claimed to be suicidal during her pregnancy and the palace wouldn't help her. In my best Susanna Sugarbaker voice, "Excuse me??"

    Uh, Harry, William and Katherine's largest cause which they do (W&K) and did (H) help quite a bit, is mental illness. So she couldn't ask one of them to recommend a good doctor, and H has been in therapy for years?

  • Kswl 2
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    I just deleted a disgusted post. Suffice to say, that cartoon does say it all—- but not about those depicted in it.

  • Bunny
    17 days ago

    Piers Morgan posted that cartoon?!! Talk about offensive.

  • Judi
    17 days ago

    Oakley, you have no idea how offensive I personally find your comment about suicide.

  • mdln
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    Thank you @Oakley, if one is feeling depressed or suicidal they should speak with their physician or other healthcare provider (not employer). Since it is fairly common during pregnancy and post-partum, obstetricians screen for symptoms during visits. Just some of the recommended screenings for pregnant women:


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  • Oakley
    17 days ago

    I'm sorry if I offended you Judi, it wasn't meant to be offenseive. My youngest son, and it's no secret here, has bipolar disorder and has attempted suicide several times. Thank God his insurance pays for a weekly therapist and dual diagnosis centers, which he's in one now. I'm well read on suicide and severe depression which I've also had...due to my son's situation.


    I'm talking about people like Meghan Markle who has a world of psychiatrists and therapists & one phone call, while regular people can't afford help. That was the point I was trying to make and the reason many didn't believe her.


    She's a narcissist and they lie like they breathe, like she did in the Oprah interview. No way do I believe she couldn't find help. It was a pity party interview.


    She said the palace wouldn't help her when she asked.

    I'm not saying she wasn't depressed but she only mentioned it to bash the Queen and nothing more. She doesn't need the palace for help, she has a husband, brother-in-law, and sister-in-law whose main cause is mental illness!! Harry himself went to a therapist for years. But she wanted to blame the Queen instead of herself. Just like a malicious narc does.

  • Oakley
    17 days ago

    Kswl, if you've been following the exact words Harry and Meghan have said in public since the day they quit royay life, until now, you would know for a fact that cartoon does fit them to a T.


    Bunny, I'm not all that fond of Piers myself, but he's got those two pegged. The cartoon says what so many have tried to say in hundreds of paragraphs.


    You all have a good day.

  • Kswl 2
    17 days ago
    last modified: 17 days ago

    Your obvious hatred of two people you’ve never met and your certainty that you know what they are thinking is disturbing, Oakley. I know you are going through a difficult time; maybe you should focus your attention on things you can change and people you can help instead of this. I am saying this not out of malice, but concern.

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  • Judi
    17 days ago

    She's a narcissist and they lie like they breathe, like she did in the Oprah interview. No way do I believe she couldn't find help. It was a pity party interview.


    Someone may have mentioned this before, during the Oprah interview which I refused to watch but read snippets of


    So which is it? Did you watch or did you not?

  • palimpsest
    17 days ago

    Schadenfreude is an unhealthy and non-productive emotion.

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  • jmm1837
    17 days ago

    To be fair, I don't think what you're seeing here is schadenfreude; I think it's scepticism.  We're being sold a narrative - two actually - one from Team Harry, one from Team Palace. One team is trying to create a viable new brand, the other is trying to preserve an existing one.  The image each is presenting to the world is essentially marketing, not necessarily truth.  Before buying into either, a little due diligence about what they actually stand for is warranted. It's no different than buying a car or selecting a charity to support.  Words are fine but I want to see performance.

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  • Bunny
    17 days ago

    I trust my ability to see past the marketing efforts.

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  • Tina Marie
    17 days ago

    I had no clue what charities they supported, so googled. Here's a few I found:


    Prince Harry Will Donate $1.5 Million of His Memoir Proceeds to the Sentebale Charity. The Duke of Sussex co-founded the charity, which supports vulnerable children in several South African countries.Aug 19, 2021 (Town and Country)


    The Sussexes made a generous donation to Harvest Home L.A., which helps homeless pregnant women and their children. Prince Harry and Duchess Meghan are continuing their mission of supporting women in need.Jul 16, 2021 (Harpers Bazaar)


    MM and Prince Harry's Archewell Foundation has named the charities it will be supporting including a mental health charity, an online racial justice movement and two groups that promote diversity in media.

    On Friday, less than a week on from their bombshell interview with Oprah Winfrey, the Sussexes’ foundation announced that it will back Mind, the British mental health charity that was publicly supportive of Markle after she revealed her struggles with her mental health during the interview.


    Harry's most notable charity work so far is his founding and chairing of the Invictus Games in 2014. The Paralympic-style international competition for injured ex-service personnel has been held in London, Orlando, Toronto and Sydney. He has also supported the charity Walking With the Wounded, for injured veterans (BBC).


    I didn't google as to what they do to raise money for these charities/causes, but apparently they do contribute to the above. I do believe I have seen a piece on the Invictus Games on tv at some time. An honorable cause.


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  • palimpsest
    17 days ago

    Not everyone here is displaying schadenfreude, no, not at all. Skepticism and dislike, well, there is nothing that says that you have to like any public figure. I don't care much about what their public image is vs. what they do or accomplish; I am not "offended" by them because they aren't public policy makers so their success or failure is a neutral to me. And not all schadenfreude is unhealthy, really, now that I think about it. For example I get a certain amount of satisfaction when the hypocrisy of a politician or religious leader who says one thing and does another is revealed. But a person who has no influence on policy, not so much.

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  • jmm1837
    17 days ago

    Tina Marie - while these are admirable causes, the reality is that most of these charitable endeavours have not yet come to fruition. The  memoirs haven't been published, the "generous donation" to Harvest Home consisted of pallets of diapers, and, so far as I know, Archewell hasn't yet got fundraising by its charitable arm really rolling.  The main thrust of their activities to date seems to be focussed on the commercial side of the business (which is fair enough, since building a profile will be critical to their ability to support their charitable works further down the road.)  But that's the future, not the present  So, as I said, I'm going to wait until I see the substance.

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  • Tina Marie
    17 days ago

    Oh of course jmm1837. I'm really not interested enough in the royal family to dig futher. In fact, I probably wouldn't have looked that far had it not been for this post. Hopefully they will stick to their plan to make meaningful contributions to the causes they have chosen to support.


    I'm curious @jmm1837, are you in the UK?

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  • jmm1837
    17 days ago
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    Tina Marie - no, I'm a Canadian living in Australia. Mostly, I couldn't care less about the Royals and their activities. I'm hopeful that both my countries will become republics in my lifetime. Although there's a fair bit of coverage of the family here in Oz, I only got interested in the subject when it appeared my Canadian taxes (which I still pay) might be diverted to pay for Harry's security in BC while he sat on a multi-million dollar inheritance. That didn't sit at all well with me, or with most Canadians, and probably colored my views.

    Part of my skepticism though, has nothing to do with Harry and Meghan specifically, but with charities in general. You look at the books for a lot of them, and in some cases surprisingly little of the money raised or donated goes to actual causes; the rest is absorbed by "administration" - advertising, salaries, overhead, etc. I'm very selective about who and what I donate to these days.

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  • Judi
    17 days ago

    Mostly, I couldn't care less about the Royals and their activities.


    You'd never know it reading this thread.

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  • jmm1837
    17 days ago

    "You'd never know it reading this thread."


    I explained what piqued my interest in this particular issue. Frankly, I'm really quite puzzled by some of the comments here,including your accusation that I hold some sort of animosity towards Harry and Meghan. Being skeptical does not equate to holding animosity nor to being vicious. Some of the comments directed at those of us who are not outright fans of Harry and Meghan, on the other hand...

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  • Tina Marie
    17 days ago

    @jmm1837 that makes sense. You are so right sbout being careful where you donate!

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  • 1929Spanish-GW
    17 days ago

    Okay. One of my favorite British-isms is ”off you go”. Time to move on! 😊

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  • Feathers11
    17 days ago

    jmm1837, I've appreciated your explanation and perspectives on this topic. It's ok with me that you've shared them, just like I've appreciated everyone else's.

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