Oops....Oval too small
cherry nelson
2 years ago
I told myself...it was fine. I like the whimsical unexpected oval (which was part of my thought process with this window in my pantry to began with, like an old gothic farmhouse) but it ended up being about a foot too small...I think had the framer put it up a ways (instead of lining it up with the bottom of the other windows) and put it mid way between the other windows would have been better, but it is still looking undersmall, lol. I am hoping by the time the board and batten and maybe building up some moldings around it will beef it up it wont seem so small. Anyone have any ideas...of how to camoflage this a bit better.....or should I just embrace it? I feel pretty damned bless to be able to do this at all. thanks!
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cherry nelson
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Comments (38)B2alicia- Beautiful photos! You've really improved on what you started with and made it so inviting :) Gardenweed- Wonderful path! It's amazing how old/antique it looks...did you mortar the blocks? I would love to get a path like that for my mom's house. Your fence is so rustic and charming. Was it difficult to install? The fence, path and plants are just a beautiful combination. Tk- Focus on one area at a time and really do something you love. Sometimes, it's hard to ignore other areas, but mowed grass always looks nice and it gives you more time to focus on a few beds and really make them what you want. I think the hardest thing sometimes is realizing how much we can really take on AND maintain. Look at all my weeds this summer! LOL I have to realize there's only so much I can do and focus on those areas. Remember, you have almost 1 1/2 acres! It's going to take a little time to make it everything you'd like it to be...but I know you're going to get there...eventually :) Lois- Cute picture! It took me a minute to find your little visitor LOL. Pots can be hard to keep watered. I've had better luck with a few big pots of cosmos than smaller ones. I had a few large containers of petunias and star jasmine, with a really big cosmos container, by the front porch. They could easily go two even three days, before I had to water them again...and that was with 90 degree weather. Melissa- Have you ever thought of creating a potager? It doesn't have to be a big garden, but it's perfect for mixing roses and vegetables with other edibles. A rose in the middle, or several along the edge of the garden, or even on a couple of sides, will look beautiful with maybe blueberries and a few beds of veggies and herbs. Edible flowers are nice, too and bring in lots of "good" bugs :) There are a lot of beautiful pictures over on the potager forum, or just google potager....See MoreAre they too deep, too small, or just silly?
Comments (8)Thane - I also pot the bare-root ones for the first year so I can be in better control of watering and feeding while they are getting a new root system established. Sometimes they just need a little coddling at the beginning; this is especially important if you have very small divisions, and you note that you do have some. Once they are established in the pot and you then move them to the ground, lots of room and organic compost in the ground will see to them for decades. Azzz - A 5 gallon pot is too big for what sounds like a 3-5 eyed division (and very similar in some ways to putting a bare root peony directly into the ground, see note to Thane above). A three gallon is the largest you should need for that size, and it will most likely fit into a 2 gallon. Too large a soil volume that is not quickly occupied by a developing root system will retain excess water (never good) and hold too much unused fertilizer, which, if the soil does dry out, can damage the developing root system. I always put them into the smallest pot I can without breaking anything (and I have been known to do some creative bending rather than pot up a size if we're talking about just one wayward root). - Steve...See MoreSmall Bedroom - how small is too small?
Comments (42)When I had the master suite created in my DH's home up north, it was crowded for bedside tables too. So I got two wooden tall plant stands, with 12x12" tops. They fit perfectly fine. Then swing arm wall mounted lamps for each side of the bed. Enough room for a book on the shelf below and a glass of water or whatever. I never just use an end table when there is an option to have a small chest beside the table. That works even in a small room with limited storage space. Every item has to WORK to make the cut when space is scarce. And, in the bedroom in Alabama, I am going to be sorry to leave it for the BACK bedroom, which will become an ensuite master, because it is beginning to look SO comfortable. It is a west-facing bedroom, on the street. It has two PAIRS of windows, and the closet and entry to the bedroom are on a third wall. That leaves one wall which has no windows and no doors or other obstructions. However, I did not want the bed to be sideways in front of the entry door, so had to put the bed first diagonally in the corner between the two pairs of windows. This worked fine for a while, with the wicker chests I use for bedside tables centered between the windows. However, it was hard to make up the bed. So I decided to center the bed in front of the windows on the street wall. I closed the blinds to block the high heat coming through those windows anyway. And then I found some floor/ceiling grommet drapes at Tuesday Mornings! That is when I got DH to install crown molding wide enough to mount the double drapery rods, and I started planning 3 layers of curtains...grommet drapes wall to wall on both window walls, sheers on the second drapery rod, and finally the top-down roman shades using 90% shade cloth and Thermasuede fabric as a liner. I am almost done with the curtain project, but even with the shade cloth pinned in place on the west wall, the difference in heat gain is significant. This room is 12 x 12 give or take an inch. We changed out sliding closet doors for 2 pair of Jeldwen bifold shutter doors which I painted to match the crown molding and base boards and other wood work. The wicker chests are on either side of a full sized bed, with lots of breathing room. There is a rocking chair near the closet. There is a third chest between the closet and the door to the hall, and a wall mount TV is above the chest. So now I've ordered the Hudson queen size storage bed from Room and Board in cherry. It should arrive this month. I can hardly wait. It is a platform bed with no footboard, and no box springs, and it measures 60 x 80. A full bed is 54 x 75, so only a few significant inches of comfort which I look forward to having. But when the contractor finally comes, and bumps out the master bath for a tub and a long walk in closet, we'll be moving this new jewel to the back bedroom. This current bedroom will convert to a nice study/guest room. Only we seldom have over night guests, and may just put desks and bookcases in there until we move the contents of the up-north house. It seems to me that we have plenty of space in the 12 x 12 bedroom. Since we've repainted and made the room so peaceful, I will now take a horizontal break to meditate or read or chat on the phone. It looks good in natural or ambient light all times of day since northern exposures give true light, and the shade cloth gives a sense of separation from the street. Keeping active pursuits out of the bedroom is conducive to rest and separation from the cares of life....See MoreLayout help needed with too big but too small kitchen
Comments (14)Twn85, do you have pictures of your final design? Would love to see it. Laughable, that may be an alternative. I definitely don't want to go shorter, as I am 5'9 and DH is 6'3. My only thing is that I'd have to add some granite to the left of the stove (where the current fridge is now, before the corner begins to make a peninsula) but maybe I could take what I'd be cutting out on the other side where the fridge would be moved? I don't know enough about granite to know if that's an option. Honestly I'd love new counters but even getting DH to consider any of this is enough of a challenge - he sees the square footage and thinks I'm crazy and high maintenance (okay, I AM but still) to even talk about putting money into an already "big" kitchen with upgrades. As for what I like to do in the kitchen - I'm a pretty much make-from-scratch cook. I am a SAHM and spend A LOT of time in the kitchen, either cooking, prepping or cleaning. I like having stations - baking, cooking, coffee, etc. I don't like a lot of appliances on the counter but I DO have a lot of heavy gadgets I'd want a spot in a cabinet or drawer for. There is a small TV in the corner of a countertop to give me company while I'm in there because I'm usually alone, although I'd LOVE to have (adult) company - other times, I have my small (ages 5 and 3) children to "help" out, and having a place for them to put their stools to spread out and pour ingredients is very good. The breakfast nook bugs me right now - the window seat is not currently there and the outside chairs are right in the walkway from the garage door into the FR. However, I'm not a big fan of stool seating b/c family dinners are really important at this stage in our lives. I know eventually the kids will need a place to do homework but if a sink goes at the peninsula, that sounds like a disaster waiting to happen. One thing you may be able to see is the architect suggested cutting out that pantry cabinet and extending the archway that leads into the dining room. The purpose there would be to make that more of a breakfast room than formal DR and maybe put some comfortable chairs where the current breakfast nook is for conversation. A peninsula would block that idea, though, I think. After reading these responses, I've gotten to thinking. We currently have a temporary island where the suggested one would go. It's smaller and not as functional and I just assumed that functionality was what was missing. However, DH doesn't help me as often as he used to and now I'm starting to think it may be how tight the kitchen seems now, rather than him just trying to avoid any work (or miss my engaging and witty banter.)...See Morecherry nelson
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JAN MOYER
2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago 
Snaggy
2 years agoRehabit
2 years agoIf u are keeping the window raise it and frame all the exterior windows to get old home feel. If larger window can’t happen then larger trim like 2nd pictures.
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Nidnay
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoI think the main problem with it is that it’s too low (not too small). I agree that these types of round or oval windows can be really attractive and charming, but the fact that the entire exterior wall is very long and completely flat makes it look somewhat awkward and I think takes away from that whimsical effect you’re looking for.
In any case, I think it can look fine raised up a bit
Here it is moved up in line with the top of the other windows and a second pic with a larger window. I don’t think a larger window is an enhancement.
I don’t know what trim you’re adding to your windows, but I would move the oval window up so that its window trim lines up with the top of the other windows trim (excluding the transom).
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2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoAs others have said, the window just needs to be raised.
I would take the opportunity to break up that long wall with maybe a shallow bumpout. Without knowing more about the house, I cannot give a specific suggestion.
Do you have details on how the windows will be trimmed?
As someone said above, center the oval on the other windows.
cherry nelson
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2 years agowhat do you mean by bump out? Do you have any ideas for window moldings?
Did you see my image just above?
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