Tiling the shower- backer board help
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make my own waterproof foam backer board for shower walls? am i nuts?
Comments (19)I'll add this then: Durock? It's an approved substrate for any of the surface applied membranes. Sure it generates dust when cut with a power saw or angle grinder. But if you score and snap with a blade? It's pretty clean. It is heavy when compared to foam...but you'll be installing a half-dozen sheets max. Foam board? Sure, it's even lighter in weight. Here's all I recommend. Find the foam you want to use. Choose a membrane, example, Hydroban sheet membrane. Then call Laticrete's tech department and ask what thinset/adhesive they recommend for adhering their membrane to the EPS/XPS/foam of your choice. If you get a solid answer, by all means move onward with the project! If not, repeat for each foam/membrane/adhesive combo you can think of. Honestly, and again...I'm a guy who thoroughly appreciates the DIYer mentality...I built my own houses, boats, kayaks, canoes, airplane, swimming pool, I've drilled my own wells for water, I've done a couple of frame off car resto's...all solo. Trust me, I embrace the DIYer mentality. But showers? Here, on this forum, I do worry about compromised showers. Because houses are the most valuable investment most people on these forums will ever make, and water damage from a shower can just muck things up in tremendous fashion. Plus, it's near impossible to properly repair a shower short of tearing it out and rebuilding it. If your primary concern is weight and dust? Then I'll wave the bugger flag. And I'm waving it in an attempt to help you out. Just buy USG foam board and be done with it. Hydroban sheet is maybe $1.25 a foot? Kerdi about $2. Foam board? Maybe .40 cents. Adhesive? Who knows. Best case, you're saving yourself $1 a sqft by trying to make your own versus buying USG's product. For a shower of your size, that's maybe $75 you're saving. On an expenditure of how much for the entire shower? It's a fairly small percentage. Again...I THOROUGHLY embrace the DIY spirit. But with you being motivated by weight and dust? I'd spend the extra $75 to get the USG foam board. Lightweight. No dust. And you KNOW it's going to work. Plus you'll avoid the pain of having to lug a heavy and dusty bag of thinset home and the pain of trying to thinset or adhere the membrane of your choice to the foam of your choice with the adhesive of your choice on your own. Just my opinion. Worth the price paid. Good luck!! Seriously. Whichever way to proceed, I'd love to hear how things turn out....See MoreIs a cement backer board really required for setting floor tile?
Comments (6)I'm not really struggling with this, just interested in the trade offs. I just had a couple of bathrooms installed and thought people might benefit from what I experienced. Its an older house and the structure is 2x8 (actual dimension) joists with 1" planking and then new 3/4" plywood subfloor. One bathroom was a renovation of an existing one and required a mud job over the structure I described above to get the floor height right. The other bathroom was in a space that originally had hardwood floors so CBU or a full mud job over the plywood would have messed up the floor height. In both bathrooms I had Nobleseal TS installed on the floors. My tile guy said that when renovating old bathrooms he usually needs/likes to do a mud job to replace the old lathe one he pulls out, but if its a new bathroom he puts a membrane down directly onto the plywood. I asked why he does a mud job rather than putting down another layer of plywood or CBU....he said that the mud job gives him the chance to even out any irregularities in the plywood...See MoreIs tile backer board supposed to get wet? Help please
Comments (20)Just to be clear I don't disagree with anyone's comments and I appreciate them all. The whole point of paying a contractor was so I wouldn't have to take the time to learn all this stuff, which at this point I'm doing now anyways. For example I just watched a video about how to correctly trowel and I understand now about the spot binding and how swirling doesn't give enough coverage. I guess I had too high expectations that a contractor would know this stuff. It just sucks that we have to learn their trade and then watch them to make sure they do it correctly. Sorry for all the questions they were not intended to oppose the advice given at all. I guess I'm being a realist when I assume the majority of showers are probably done incorrectly, this contractor gets a lot of business and he's highly rated, I can't imagine the other ones. Anyways just a short rant. I would have settled for a "passable" shower, that's all. I will be making some calls tomorrow to some certified tile installers....See MoreHardieBacker boards - just shower or all walls?
Comments (8)Thank you all! You've convinced me to stay away from HardieBacker boards! What's the point if you still need to tank them for waterproofing? We just bought Wedi boards for the floor and shower enclosure. We will tile on the existing plasterboard for the remaining walls and apply a Mapei Waterproof sealant and Anti-Mould Flexible Grout. Hope that gives a good enough protection. I hate the smell of mould!...See MoreJoseph Corlett, LLC
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