Mid March to early April. Outdoors after chance of last frost. They like warm temps and warm soil. Do you plant in garden or in pots?

I would not know how to even ship the starts. It is now about 8 inches to a foot tall. When it just starts to sprout shoots off the old wood in the spring, I carefully take a dry shoot with the new start and just plant in the ground. I have about 6 new ones in the ground now. I am so afraid to actually cut this plant in half , but my mom said it will not hurt it acutally it would love it. Im trying to figure out how to post the new picts on here .

hoovb - My windermere is getting pretty large as well, still a nice bush form, but I'm wondering about it's 3ft height I thought I had read about. It's preparing to give a full flush soon so I'm pretty excited. Yeah, I'm not sure about the toasted buds, but it only happens to that plant even though the others are fine. Also that Geoff Hamilton had some white thing bugs on it for a while, which I thought might be spider mites but I'm not certain. jumbojimmy - I'll try to get you some photos of Sweet Juliet in bush form, I know I have some old ones hidden away somewhere. Some more Austins I took photos of yesterday: Teasing Georgia I knew this was the fence climber I wanted when I saw it in the Austin catalog and checked out the photos of it on helpmefind. Lovely scent, seems to be very robust and doing well. Ambridge Rose This one has done really well since I transplanted it into a pot after a miserable first year in the ground. 5 years old now I believe. The only problem it has is the blooms tend to be much larger than it's thing narrow stems can support. Not my favorite scent, but does very well as cut flowers.

"not enough hours" I understand. It is tiring. My back is killing me today for working on the yard. Trying to weed and pull a trumpet vine whose roots refuse to die and have reached all the way to the Planet Jupiter. 25 years trying to kill it!!! Oh, my back, ouch! I need a warm pool with an automatic wine dispenser!!! Hee, hee, hee.