Installing a whole house water filtration system w/booster pump
RICHARD ROSZKOWSKI
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Jake The Wonderdog
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Comments (1)Since you have chlorine in the water, can I assume you will have city water? Start with the city water report - can you link to it or copy it here? That way we can see what your raw water looks like and go from there. At first glance, you are making a very tall order. All of what you are asking for is possible. However, it won't be very practical unless money is truly no object and you have lots of space for water treatment equipment. Second, if you want to remove VOCs and pharmaceuticals, you need to know how much is actually in your water. You will need to find a certified lab and ask them about sampling and testing procedures. You can find certified water labs on your state's web site or by calling you city's water treatment facility. Chlorine and VOCs are relatively easy to remove with a carbon filter. IF VOCs are high enough, you would likely need aeration in addition to the carbon filter. The filter would look much like a softener, with a tank and a valve on top to control periodic backwashing. Flouride: A reverse osmosis will remove flouride. However, you have stated a desire to keep the minerals in your water and this is where you run into a bit of a problem. Activated alumina filters do exist for flouride removal. However, they are expensive - $50-$60 per cartridge and should be replace every three months. Additionally, If you want to ensure they remove all of the flouride, pH should be between 5 and 6. Your water pH will be higher. So, to make these work really well, you would need to inject acid to drop pH, run through the filter, then inject base to bring pH back up. Alternatively, you install reverse osmosis for drinking and get your minerals from your food. Softener: This one is easy, but in order to ensure it will work correctly and is size properly, the following analysis is needed: pH, TDS, hardness, iron, manganese, sulfides. Hopefully your city's water report will contain the necessary information. Pharmaceuticals: For drinking water, the reverse osmosis I mentioned previously will take care of it. You can install the RO in a central location and install a drinking water faucet at every sink throughout the home. However, removing trace pharmaceuticals from the water from your entire home will be impractical and expensive with no discernible benefit. That's not to say it can't be done. BUT, you would need a commercial-sized RO unit, a large atmospheric water storage tank, UV or other disinfection after the tank, a pump to move the water through your home, integrated control systems and the know-how to run it all. Realize also that these units will have about a 60% recovery rate - for every gallon of water they make, 2/3 of a gallon goes down the drain. Further, all of the piping in your home would have to be plastic - absolutely no copper. All of the above can be obtained from local water treatment dealers. However, if you do decide you want to do all of it, you do not want to deal with just any dealer. You need a company and a rep that routinely deals with commercial buildings and light industry....See MoreWhole house Reverse Osmosis system
Comments (21)I’m not a pro by training but I spent a solid 4 months (every single day) researching, reading, talking to chemical engineers at the local university, plumbers, etc. I exhausted myself day and night. I slept with my phone waiting for replies from a water chemist engineer from Germany. Stress. Bought a house with a well. Had water tested at lab and I had just about every problem imagined. Forget the local water treatment salesmen, unless you just want to make a donation. Waste of time and inefficient. I wasted a lot of time with those companies before I realized they didn’t know a damn thing. First test water for EVERYTHING! Yes, you have to go to a lab and probably spend $250.00 or more. Hardness PH bacteria levels iron sulfur and Sulphates TDS, alkalinity, manganese, everything! Get results and go from there. I had high iron, hardness, iron bacteria, dangerously high sulphates, rotten egg smell, all with a low Flow rate well. This matters! After handling all of my issues I was stuck with sulphates which is hard to deal with. R/O is the only way. This means I was going to be limited to having drinkable water in one location in my brand new house...the kitchen sink. I couldn’t even use the water dispenser or ice machine from my fridge because there was no practical way to connect an r/o system. I wanted a full house r/o where my kids could get water from their bathroom sink...but I have copper pipes so I didn’t think it was an option. ****IT IS AN OPTION no don’t have to re-pipe. BUT YOU DO HAVE TO TREAT OTHER ISSUES FIRST. Hard water doesn’t do well going into R/O system. Simply put, you r/o for the entire house and after R/O system you install another system which is a re-mineralizing the water to neutralize the PH and make it taste REALLY GOOD! The neutralized water (ph around 7-8) will not corrode anything. Water tastes just like the ph water from “smart water” You will spend some money. There will be an adjustment period while you fine tune everything. It’s worth it at the end. Licensed plumber for install. Water salesmen can not do this. Good luck. Bad water sucks, I almost put our house back on the market because nobody could figure it out. Eventually, some very kind and intelligent people helped me. They weren’t selling anything or getting anything in return. They just simply took the time to help someone in a bad situation. I am grateful and found this post and wanted to share. There is a way to fix water, no matter how bad....See MoreHard water Filtration system for greenhouse garden?
Comments (39)I was curious to see how my water would compare to yours. Our water system measures the hardness of our water in grains. That 180 ppm equals 10.5 grains and our water system reports our water is 40-42 grains hardness right now, roughly 4 times their designation of very hard water. So, I am in the ballpark of the hardness of your water. These are things I can tell you. For my vegetables, I do not use softened water. I could not afford to use the potassium chloride for my vegetable garden. Since my soil is compose of the same stuff the aquifer is made of (limestone), I have determined one of the best things I can to do for truly excellent results is to amend the soil as much as I can afford to do (incidentally, with the low rain fall, the soil is low in organic matter). I find a great mix of things to more helpful than say, just grabbing horse manure from the neighbors. Peat moss, cotton bur compost, plenty of straw on top, etc. The water does play a part, so in your shoes, I would think short-term and long-term. I forget the exact numbers, but RO water takes something like 3 gallons of water to make 1 gallon of water. That is a lot of waste. Over the long run, the more water you take from the well, the greater the likelihood the quality will decline and the water will get worse. That is why it is likely a good idea to work on the rain catchment to at least use in conjunction. For those of us who have made our homes in arid regions, it requires more from us to find ways to live sustainably. I understand the expenses because I too am trying to figure out a practical rain catchment for my house and gardens (I also do not underestimate what it is like to haul water, as I bail 5 gallon buckets of water from my kids bathtub and carry it downstairs and outside, a 5 gallon bucket weighs almost 40 pounds, it really sucks but my arms look great!). Just some thoughts....See MoreUnder-sink water filtration system or whole house filtration system
Comments (3)What needs to be treated in the water? Without seeing your water analysis, you won't get meaningful answers here. If you choose to list the problem aspects of the water do note if it's municipal or well water and where you live. A whole house system is generally installed to treat systemic issues like pH, hardness, high iron, etc. These would usually have media filled tanks that automatically regenerate and are serviced annually (maybe more often) to replace minerals and examine components. Under sink systems are usually for just drinking water. RO wastes a LOT of water for each gallon produced and is not done 'whole house'. If your incoming water is pretty bad and you don't have significant pre-filtration, your RO membrane will be really taxed. I have the iSpring PH100 RO system which claims the lowest waste water without using a permeate pump. It was a DIY. Filters are reasonably priced and it has a remineralization filter for taste. Also have a whole house neutralizer to address low pH....See MoreJake The Wonderdog
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