The great 'Sombreuil' Conundrum
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Question about Sombreuil (aka Colonial White)
Comments (69)I eventuallly planted my Sombreuil (grafted from Beales', still listed as an 1880 tea btw...) in late winter 2014 and just got my first blooms the other day! Huge beer mat sized absolutely gorgeous. I'm just commenting here to report that despite my fears this rose is not a mildew magnet for me. It is planted in the worst possible conditions in my garden and if it were very PM prone it would have shown it by now. No PM to speak about while at this same time many of my roses are inflicted by it. Planted against a wall, on inclined ground, in partial shade, close to an olive tree and shaded by a structure, receiving only a few hours of morning sun. I think of getting a second one and plant it in a more favorable spot where I can admire it without specifically seeking it. Where it is now, only I know that it exists. Huge mistake but I was worried it would prove mildewy for me. New Dawn, planted at the same time, not far away in similar conditions has become double the size btw. Still waiting for it to bloom. To my untrained eyes these 2 roses do not look very similar in traits....See MoreWinter protect Q's Mademoiselle de Sombreuil & others
Comments (10)Sorry I disappeared for a bit...! I've been very busy building my winter shelving and light system for my plants, The weather here has been pretty mild so that bought some more time for deciding what to do about the outdoor things. Thank you all so much for the input. I had thought that I would have to protect this particular rose, but I guess not. I am going to just lower the pots into the ground to the rim to help prevent freezing and that will be all. The couple I rooted that are already living in pots outside will be treated the same way, but the several I have rooting in bags inside will remain inside. I am sure I will be fighting some insects/mites, but I know they are too small to be outside. That is okay though. It was all an experiment and I won't mind trying to care for them and observe their growth inside and see what happens. thank you again all so much for your suggestions! Jeri, I actually purchased one of each variety. I have a bit of a soft spot for white roses. I bought the imposter Sombreuil, the climber AKA Colonial White(?), to use as a climber for the back fence of the property. It only gets limited sun so I hoped it would be a successful choice. It lasted most of the season, but then died. The original condition of the bare root was just ok, arriving with at least one broken and one black cane. I figured I would try it anyhow as one cane was beginning to leaf out. It didn't make it though. I don't think it was in very good condition when it arrived, but the bed was also still very disrupted as it was my big project this year. I will try again though because I do like the look of it's flowers and would love to have that plant, whatever it's name. I don't think I really planned on having to winter protect that one, never really thought about it given it's hardiness. The second plant, Mademoiselle de Sombreuil, I bought as a live band. I just thought it was a beautiful rose and wanted to give it a try. It had two small bloom so far, just small blooms, but I have no reason to believe it is anything but what it was advertised as. It is thriving. I am looking forward to next year to see it bloom again! :) This one I was unsure about as far as hardiness went, given it's tea rose background. Tenor- peggy, I actually purchased this rose on ebay of all places. I was pretty skeptical of the whole idea of ebay plant buying. It turned out to be a beautiful plant and I am so happy I made the decision! It is around at a couple mail order places, but I decided to take a gamble. I'm happy I did, It's a nice plant....See MoreRose and clemmie conundrum
Comments (1)Can you post a photo or two of the area in question? I am having a difficult time envisioning all this information. I wouldn't plant any clematis in dry shade since they need at least 4 or 5 hours of sun to bloom and hate being dry....See More'Sombreuil, Cl.'
Comments (53)Lisa, We share similar taste in roses =) Would you say the white pet is just as pretty as bolero since I know you like bolero too? I have earth angel in a pot and like the flower. I was thinking I could plant two of those there since I like cutting my roses too. I need something that can take filter sun. If Frances Meilland roses are not stingy and can take filtered sun I have room for one big shrub there. I just think the rose in pictures looks absolutely breathtaking, wish I could see it and smell in person....See Morejerijen
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