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Comments (8)a vessel with no overflow not draining fast enough. in this very specific case, i think it is good to point out that "venting" could mean before or after the P trap. In plumbing, venting means after the P trap. If you had two vessel sinks (each with no overflow) connected by a "continuous waste" onto a single P trap, they would both flow well, as air in the pipe below one sink before the P trap would get displaced into the pipe of the other sink. Newbies, search on "continuous waste" to see images. Continuous Waste Center Outlet is easiest to visualize. Continuous Waste End Outlet is the other option. If someone else more qualified wants to add to this description, please do. To add more precise plumbing terms to describe the two kinds of venting. Before the P trap and after. Water and air have to be exchanged (displace each other) for a pipe to drain well. When it drains slow, one can increase the pipe size (which allows air in the pipe to move around the water coming down) by one size, or give the air another place to go to. AAV Studor type valves are for letting air in, not for letting air out. They are used after the P trap not before. Following the logic of air displacement described above, one way to solve the slow drain is to Wye in a standpipe which would then let air move out of the way (get displaced) when water comes down the drain. The standpipe could be hidden from view; it doesn't have to be in the bathroom if you have a more appropriate place for it behind one of the walls. HTH !...See MoreVessel sink owners - do you love them?
Comments (33)Because the faucet can be located in so many places, and depending on how big your sink is,there can be plenty of room to clean. I can easily get around the whole sink. I am going to seal around the base with a clear silicone. If you are considering this option, do templates with paper and watch the heights and comparisons of faucet to sink. It took me three tries to find the right combination. I found it difficult to find a one hole faucet with a more traditional style and the right height, esp. for a reasonable price. We opted not to put the faucet in the wall, my favorite, because it is an outside wall. The sink recess, although I love it, was necessary because of the faucet height. Karen...See MoreGlass Vessel Sink in a Wet Bar -- Am I Crazy?
Comments (7)If you are using standard base cabinets with countertop height at 36", a vessel sink will be too high to actually use for anything but face washing for a very tall person. It would take a 30" high countertop to be able to be used for glass washing and rinsing, which is the most common usage of bar sinks. Most also don't have very "square" sides to be able to fill them up with soapy water and glasses, and they're not very deep, so the don't hold very much. One of the best uses of a (nice sized) bar sink is to hold ice and beverages for a "event" and I can't see you doing this with a vessel sink. Now, take a beautiful glass vessel sink and recess it slightly into the counter, underlight it, and get some pretty river pebbles and a fountain pump and you'd have a great water feature, but to actually use it as a bar sink---I don't think you'd be happy....See MorePrep sink, or centering the stove?
Comments (17)The problem is resolved. She had said there wasn't room for the second sink back when we had tried to put the fridge on the range wall, at the bottom of the drawing. Having a 36" fridge meant a 36" pantry on the other end for balance. And that meant 6" less on either side of the stove. Not having the fridge there means more space. I guess "prep" sink is an inaccurate term. I don't actually do much prep at the sink. I wash the vegetables and then take them over to the island to sit and do my chopping and peeling. I wanted a sink closer to the stove because I have a tendency to burn myself while cooking. The cleanup sink is going to be about 10' from the stove. When I'm not being an idiot, there are other reasons for a 3rd sink. DH and I always seem to be fighting over the sink. Whether I am washing and he wants to dump something; or he wants to pile dirty dishes in the sink to create the most disgusting and dangerous mess ever to bless a kitchen, and I have no place to fill a pot or wash some vegetables. I'm hoping a 3rd sink might eliminate this strife. Or it can be used as a bar sink when entertaining. (It's actually marked on the wrong side of the stove in this drawing.) The window can't move. It's actually moved a few more inches to the right, as the architect forgot to account for the thickness of the exterior cladding when he placed the window. There's a bathroom behind the fridge. That's not the view I want from my kitchen. :) The stove is on an exterior wall. But we're less than 8 feet from the neighbour, so we're not allowed to put windows on that wall. The island will not be L shaped. That was thrown in as a suggestion when the fridge was going to be next to the dining room. (For landing space.) The space is a fully open concept main floor, there are no walls that aren't on this drawing. Practigal, there's nothing "trendy" about my island. I've had an island like this for 12 years and wouldn't trade it for anything. A wide open space not broken up by anything is SOOO useful. I spread out my ingredients when I'm batch cooking. I lay out food when entertaining. I even wrap presents on this island. I'm sure you'd probably consider the open concept trendy and useless. But again, I've lived with it for 12 years. The rooms that are closed off from the kitchen just don't ever get used. Only the dog ever sits in my formal living room. Granted, the new island is bigger than the old one, so I could put in a sink at one end and have just as much open space as I do now. But not having a sink allows more options for countertop materials. I am also contemplating reducing some of the cabinets underneath, so you can sit on one or both ends....See MorePeter
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