New thread on Summer Citrus Grafting
I thought I would start a new thread on summer grafting (for citrus). I'm thinking summer is a really good time to graft in my region. Summers are not scorching like in the south, but nice and warm (including nights) so the plants are still actively growing. Humidity is generally high. Days are long.
Here’s the Panzarella orange chip bud I grafted onto Sour Orange about three weeks ago . In this shot I think I can detect the bud swelling already. I did a small gash in bark above the graft after a little over 2 weeks, which you can see. The Sour Orange really, really wants to grow. I've been rubbing off every new sprout as they appear.
Here's the graft after just two more days. It's definitely swelling:
The chip bud is one of the the graft types that I have had really good success with. I tried T-budding where you peel the bark, but I usually end up making such a mess of the bark if it doesn't peel cleanly. Plus chip budding is easier to do on smaller size rootstocks. To help stabilize the chip bud graft, I like making that little flap at the bottom of the rootstock cut. It helps to hold the chip in place while wrapping and also gives another surface to fuse with the chip. I like to use Buddy Tape for wrapping. It's 1" wide and perforated so you can easily tear off small portions while in the middle of the process.
I've also had good luck with veneer grafts. This one has contact for about two inches:
Comments (41)
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoI have done 4 grafts this summer. 2 PT grafts on a sour orange rootstock and 2 Valentine pomelo buds each on its own sour orange tree.
2 grafts on sour orange. The lower one died.
This is the surviving upper bud.
Valentine pomelo on sour orange. 1 survives 1 dies
Steve
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked poncirusguy6b452xxDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoRelated Discussions
Some samples of my grafted citrus trees
Comments (24)Toni. Thanks. But I don't understand your question. What stock did I use to graft all citrus on? As you can see all the host plants are different. All I did was to graft a different tree to a branch of the host plants so what do you mean by what stock did I use? Marc, heh, I do just what you do Marc. Every morning I can't wait till daybreak till I go to my yard and look specially for the new grafts that I did whether there is any changes as of yesterday. Then I'd inspect each and every one of them for bugs and such. Yesterday, I saw a BIG bird munching on my riped cherries. My first thought was to get my newly bought air rifle 1000 fps velocity but then I debated it only was looking for its food and must be hungry. And I just shoo'd it away. I end up plucking the cherries and munched them myself. So sweet. Those Prince Ranier cherries. And when my kid came from school we got as much as we can and ate them last night while watching TV. My kid kept on putting them in his mouth while harvesting them. So those are the fruit of your labor. Are you bored really? Those are the happppiest moment waiting for your fruits to ripen. At least for me. It makes your every day a pleasant one....See MoreA little about me..just starting a new thread from old thread.
Comments (5)Hi Terrance nice to meet ya and thanks for the reply! Yes I must get outside in scratch that dirt. Where I live now, in Aberdeen, we gravelled the whole backyard due to having multiple horses in the house. LOL..my great danes make a terrible miss on grass so it was the only way. And mud? As in garden? Would be destroyed unless I built a fence around it. We are planning to buy a house soon, so hope to change all that. I can not wait to get into roses outdoors and perenials, grow my own veggies. Lily's too! I hope he builds me a greenhouse, as I am a die hard fan of tropicals. Plumeria and hibiscus are my fave's. Been growing them indoors for a year under lights, and lots of blooms. I also enjoy propagating and starting from seed indoors. Fun stuff! I guess when you grow up as a small town girl, you stick to your roots..hahahaha..too funny! Krista - sorry I left Sharon's name in the original post, so she knew I ressurrected it....See Moresweet citrus trees outside for summer diary.
Comments (10)Steve, how long it's been from the moment you graft-it? I suggest to put a plastic bag (or food stretch foil) around the graft area, so that the scion will not desiccate. Teflon tape is not water-tight (it is watertight only if compressed between nut and bolt) and will allow water to evaporate from the graft area. I use a zip-lock bag for 10-14 days after grafting, then remove the Teflon tape and paint the wound with acrylic paint....See MoreSUMMER is here... Seasonal thread part 8
Comments (206)Aiden is such a cutie pie. I love first day of school pics. They all stand with their arms glued to their sides, although Aiden looks far more relaxed than most, proudly wearing new clothes, and hair combed, some for the first time all summer. i love that age, especially little boys. They are eager to please and like to help. Aiden has a beautiful backdrop for his photo. I definitely remember being nervous in grade school. I'm glad he's more comfortable about it now. I'm sorry your Poseidon has had troubles. I fear I may be getting too excited about mine before it has proven itself. Princess CdM, Nahema and Poseidon have made me a happy gardener, in spite of it being a disappointing season overall, but winter will tell the tale. Your Singing in the Rain is a great looking bush. Is your Munstead bush kind of gangly and oddly shaped? Mine sure are. I adore the blooms, but the bushes are nothing to brag about. Diane, I've been thinking I ought to find some scabiosa again, but didn't think about pink until I saw Lisa's. Now, I'm obsessed. Lisa, every time you post something, I want it, too. I don't have Crm. Abundance, but I might try those pink shades with MMagdelene, Desdemona and Crm. Veranda. I'm almost giddy that I finally have some decent blooms. Gruss an Aachen....See MoreDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoComing along. This is 28 days after graft date. This plant will outgrow a rooted cutting.
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoJust bought a new 'Flame' plant from Madison Citrus and it was really tall. So I chopped it back and used the excess plant material to make a few more grafts. 'Flame' grapefruit grafted onto Flying Dragon 7 days ago. Still green so far. I find Flying Dragon to be not so vigorous as Poncirus hybrid stock, so grafts are slower to take.
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoLooking nice Dave. I made a new graft placing a bud on my last of 3 sour oranges
Steven
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoTo slip bark after slitting I use a Wendy's plastic knife and pinch the knife against the tree side with my finger on the knife and thumb on the tree. Squeeze slowly till there is a small gap. I clean my hands and under my finger nails with 20% bleach and tooth brush. The rest of the slipping is done with my finger nails. Broke over my trees.
Steve
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agolast modified: 2 years ago7-20-21 day 29 Valentine pomelo bud on Sour orange is expanding.
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoUnwrapped my 11 month ago approach graft on Meiwa kumquat to replace it's Kuharske Citrange with Flying Dragon rootstock,
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years ago
Ken "Fruity Paws" (N-Va 7a)
2 years agoSo, I've had mixed success this spring. Three of 5 grafts took. Unfortunately, the wild weather removed my scion tags, but I'm pretty sure the ones that took were my Owari. I'll know in a week or two as the buds are pushing leaves. A single graft is on FD rootstock.
Two (one on top and the other on bottom) is on one of my Cara Cara.
Cicadas were a pest on quite a few of my trees (finally starting to kill branches this past week). I had netting on quite a few trees, but had difficulty in keeping the pots upright in heavy storm winds we had, so had to remove netting at points. One of my rootstocks that had two scions grafted got his pretty bad on the main stem. The below is a Moro, that got tagged on a few branches and the main stem. So far, this is the only branch that I had to clip.
Thankful that the hordes only come every 17 years!
-kenponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoKen "Fruity Paws" (N-Va 7a)
2 years agoMeyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)
2 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A thanked Meyermike(Zone 6a Ma.)Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoDay 39. I'm starting to cut back the root stock a bit more every couple days as long as the scion is growing well.
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoLooking really good Dave.
Just unwrapped my PT T-Bud graft to sour orange. This is my 3rd and final PT to Seville graft
14 days from grafting. I will cover it up with clear wrap and start exposing it to light.poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agonew grafting tonight 7-28-21
Fukushu on flying dragon.
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Fukushu on flying dragon.
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Fukushu on flying dragon.
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Fukushu on flying dragon.
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New Zealand lemonade mature bud on New Zealand lemonade seedling rootstock
Steve
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoI already ran out of space but most of my trees are large enough to winter over in a cool mildly light basement room. The trees I am grafting are all rootstock. I have them whether I graft them or not. They are heavy so I am giving them away to people locally that will take care of them.
8-2-21 shoot is 6 inches long and growing well but much less robust than any of my New Zealand lemonade trees on sour orange.
Steve
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoAbove is budded over at 10 inches and needs to lignify. My PT on sour orange is now growing good at almost an inch long.
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Fukushu on PT
Fukushu on PT
Fukushu on PT
Fukushu on PT
New Zealand lemonade on NZL seedling. (own roots)
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoDay 62 (approximately). Panzarella orange onto sour orange rootstock. Rootstock has been cut off above graft now. Scion is just beginning to branch at the top.
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoYour tree is growing very nicely.
I just grafted 2 Fukushu buds to my Poncirus trifoliata grafted to Seville sour orange.
SteveDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoDay 90. Panzarella orange on sour orange rootstock. The plant is starting to branch already.
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agoDave Grafting is hard too. I use clean sterile thumb nails to lift bark instead of a knife I can't control and I make the cuts with a serrated steak knife I just push in for the horizontal and I saw with same to make the vertical. My failure rate is less than 50% instead of tool using 97% failure. This years grafts that are doing well.
Valentine pomelo on sour orange
Rootstock trunk tall enough to stop handle from hitting graft.
Poncirus trifoliata on Seville sour
PT/Seville graft date.
Mature NZL grafted to seedling NZL.
Steve
poncirusguy6b452xx
2 years ago
Valentine pomelo on Seville Graft is 7 inches high out of 35 inches tall with a 15 inch branch. makes for 43 inches of total growth. Grafted on 6-22-21 for 94 days growth I had to stuff a steel rod up its, , to straighten it out.
Steve
Dave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years agoponcirusguy6b452xx
2 years agolast modified: 2 years agoMy 2 buds of Fukushu kumquat on Poncirus Trifoliata which is grafted to Seville sour have expanding today
SteveDave in NoVA • N. Virginia • zone 7A
2 years ago
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