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Please help with exterior paint colors!

3 years ago
last modified: 3 years ago

Hi! I need to have the exterior of my home painted. I live in the land of stucco (Las Vegas) and it’s very hot and dusty. I got a list of the approved color schemes from my HOA and I’m not totally crazy about any of them; mainly because the new HOA doesn’t have record of the original color schemes. They walked thru the neighborhood and made their best guesses based on 14 year old paint that has been baking in the hot desert sun. They didn’t even enlist the help of someone from Sherwin Williams. They are guessing that my current scheme is #4 but with a brown front door. I made a poster board of the schemes because I am a visual person.

I currently have a lighter body and darker trim and I would like to reverse that. I have a brown roof with purple/red undertones, stone facade accents and ”rebel red” gravel. I am leaning toward scheme 8, but it looks kind of greenish/drab. My next door neighbors have schemes 3 and 7; so the HOA will not approve those for my house.

I am considering asking to choose colors not on their approved list, although it’s a 50/50 chance they will say yea. Would Sherwin Williams Dusted Truffle would work with Nomadic Desert or Practical Beige for Trim with Garrat Gray Front/Garage Door? is that too dark for the body? Not enough contrast with the trim? Will it look ok with my stone/gravel? LRV wise, what is considered too dark?

Open to suggestions!














Comments (91)

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Of course, get samples from www.samplize.com. Easier and test outside in various daytime and evening times to assess true colors in your light.

  • 3 years ago

    Well, I will for sure be getting a sample of Gossimer Veil as it seems to be everyones choice. Here I was thinking I needed to pull a color from the stone facade. @Flo Mangan that is a similar plan I gave to my landscaper but with agave as opposed to aloe. it will likely have to be potted on the narrow side of the walkway due to irrigation obsticals though. I have a good feeling the HOA would nix the Waterloo trim, because it would be so different from the other homes; if so what would be your second choice of color? Do you feel scheme 8 is too dark.

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  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Waterloo is one of their approved colors. And it will look amazing. Worth a shot. If they want another color tell them it looks too busy with your landscaping and you want a calmer overall look. I wish I could go with you because I could dazzle them with color science but then they would feel offended because they would see the error in their color combos and choices. The dark color in #8 looks gray to me but I need the color name to analyze it.

  • 3 years ago

    #8 is Utaupeia body, Lotus Pod trim, popouts and fascia and Garret Gray garage and front door.

    Or how do you think Dusted Truffle body, Practical Beige trim, popouts and fascia and Garret Gray garage and front door would look? Too dark?

    I also like Nomadic Desert but am not sure what would pair nicely with it.

    I plan to switch the coach lights, patio light and door handle to black. I bought a black and tan bench for the patio and the gate to the backyard (right off rhe front patio) is black metal.

    @Flo Mangan

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    If you can’t “sell” a mix of two color palettes, then I would do #2, or #5. All exteriors get the same dust and dirt. Good maintenance practice with stucco and siding is to do a power wash every spring. That maintains your paint job for many years. I much prefer the lighter body of #2, the Gossamer Veil, but I would fight for Gossamer for garage door so it downplays front garage. Again, I would do the blue for trim and front door. Use best exterior paint you can get for lasting beauty. I would avoid the browns and tans like the plague! So dated.

  • 3 years ago

    I just wanted to thank everyone for all the help and input! When I get back home tomorrow I’m going to go check out my neighbors houses to see if anyone has a stone facade with Gossimer Veil, so that I can better visualize how it’ll look. I’m also going to order some swatches from sampilize. I will update with any progress.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Get sample of lightest color too, Asthetics White I believe. While Gossamer is nice it has a LRV of 62 so it is going to be fairly dark in color. It might be darker than I would like for the body of house.

  • 3 years ago

    @Flo Mangan I actually have a sample of that because I had sampled it for interior, so I will check it out! Would you still go with the blue trim for the accent?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Yes. Blue trim and front door would be great. But garage door gets color of body.

  • 3 years ago

    @Beth H. : @Celery. Visualization, Rendering images @BeverlyFLADeziner I saw all of you comment on another exterior post and wondered if you had any input for me?

  • 3 years ago

    I went out ans tried out the 4 sampilze colors I’ve bewn considering for the interior to see how they’d look outside. The colors are Aesthetic White (which is an HOA approved color), Canvas Tan, Natural Tan and Natural Linen. What are your thoughts? @Home Interiors with Ease @Flo Mangan @Lisa Caudill Designs



  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Impossible to tell from my screen. Looks like too much sun on them for photos.

  • 3 years ago

    @Flo Mangan believe it or not, there was no direct sun at that point/one of the shadiest times of day. I’m thinking slightly deeper/warmer would tie in with the stone a bit better unless I aim to completely contrast.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Are you deciding to stick with a lighter bidy color now?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Have you tested the Gossamer Veil outside? Since that has an LRV of 63 and a big dose of chroma, and it is between a warm and cool color, it could be the best. That puts us back at Option #2. But I would still reduce the number of colors to 3 at most if possible.

  • 3 years ago

    @Lisa Caudill Designs my personal preferance would be darker because I’ve seen some pretty sharp looking newer homes BUT I’ve been doing a bit of reading and with our hot climate, it’s looking like I should stay with an LRV 40 or above unless I want to repaint every 2 years. You’re not far from here (Hesperia, right?) so I trust you know the style of homes and our climate. I do know I prefer a lighter trim, but that doesn’t necessarily mean I need a dark body, just something darker than the trim. Either way, I’m thinking I will either request a totally unapproved scheme or a mix of approved colors from other schemes and see what they say.

  • 3 years ago

    @Flo Mangan I can’t get my hands on sample paint, so until my sampilize order comes in I just have the little paint card. I will take a pic of that.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Scheme 5 would look nice as they have it defined (super sloppy mock up warning)



  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Sorry, save didn't finish with the bottom facia in waterloo, here it is


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Good job Lisa, and I think that is the best Option assuming you have to stick with their "prescribed" combinations. At least this is a 3 color option, which is preferable given your roofing color and you yard stone.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Adding in some lights in the door/facia waterloo color (or teal as you can find it closest) and pots would look nice. If you add red/yellow/orange flowers, keep your chair red, and add pillows with the yellow/orange/teal in them


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I think the lights and accessories would be best in black. I think tessla mentioned they already planned/purchased new black lights too. I could be wrong. 🧐

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Oh, I may have missed that, and see the mock up and discussion you guys had on the landscaping. If not, Copper is nice mix in there too. I like the ones in the mock up you have as well as the landscaping there.


  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I would keep the landscaping very simple. The architecture of the house is lovely so you don’t need much especially in your climate! Going to be very pretty!

  • 3 years ago

    Yes, black fixures are the plan; I also got a black and tan bench to replace the red one and may add a potted plant with a black metal stand on the other side of the door. I agree that more than 2-3 paint colors is overkill. I’m aiming for one for body/garage, one for trim/fascia and a door color.

    as far as landscaping I’m adding some agave and cactus-trying to keep it clean and simple. We also have a palm and chinese pistache tree in the front yard.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Great plan. I have had a Chinese Pistache tree and loved it. Slow growing, drought resistant once established. Takes a full year for it to get established. Probably best to plant in fall so it gets good root structure established before super hot weather. Can’t wait to see your plan come to life!!

  • 3 years ago

    This is the bench I found and am considering a planter like this for the patio, but am waiting to decide on paint first. I’m not 100% sure what style of house I have, so I’m unsure what style of lights to look for but I know I want black and I tend to like simple, clean lines. Would contemporary work?




  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Love the look but might not hold up to scale of your overall home. But I am sure we can find perfect items. That bench might work in your entry? Your choices are mid-century modern and the house is Mediterranean. We just need a few “transitional” pieces to get from outside to inside and keep it cohesive which can be done.

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  • PRO
    3 years ago

    For example, a bench like this for the porch has a strong look but MCM styling. You could get away with exterior lighting along this look.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    These looks could walk line between MCM and Mediterranean.

  • 3 years ago

    I decided to look at all of the large samples I already have to get a better idea of what looks good with the stone. I love gray (it’s literally one of my favorite colors) but I’m not really feeling it with the stone facade. What are y’alls thoughts on what direction I should go?



  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I think the gray of the one in #5 is really great with your stone. It is warm enough that it would work, and the blue trim is a perfect compliment to the stone. These samples are impossible to judge, but I don't think you should go more brown. That will be so heavy and not the style direction you are hoping for. Just my .02 cents.

  • 3 years ago

    By #5 would that be Colonnade Gray?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Let me double check. But I thought it was Gossamer Veil. Yes that’s it.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I couldn’t see a name for the light color on #5. With your natural light, you can go a bit darker LRV because the “light” conditions seem to wash colors out.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I just think the browns for the body will take the look very Tuscany and you want more modern MCM tendencies. That’s my point.

  • 3 years ago

    Got it! I thought you meant the 5th picture in the collage from yesterday, not scheme 5. Thanks for clarifying.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Yes, the Gossamer Veil from Scheme#2, then the blue and tan from Scheme #5. I made Custom Scheme #10!

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Colors are awful with these screen shots but I am using Gossamer Veil from #2 and the other two colors of blue and tan from Scheme # 5. This is due to sun and your light conditions but you will need buy-in from HOA. IF THEY WON’t approve, then Scheme 5 with just 3 colors is back up plan. Sorry you might be stuck with bad choices. But worth the fight I think.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    I just looked up the two colors SW Colonnade Gray and Gossamer Veil and they are very close. Here’s their DNA
    Colonnade Gray- yellow hue family-LRV 54
    Gossamer Gray- yellow hue family -LRV 64 (some lighter)
    Here are all the other DNA data.

  • 3 years ago

    thank you so much for all your help. I agree that my best bet is asking for a custom scheme, fingers crossed they approve it! Would you go with waterloo (blue) or macadamia (tan) for trim?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Waterloo. I have used Macadamia and it can go green so avoid that one.

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    You might like Macadamia in your light fir pop outs. Here is palette. Hope this helps. Get samples for sure.

  • 3 years ago

    Flo’s combination ^^^ looks good.

  • 3 years ago

    Does anyone happen to know if I’d be able to get away with passing off similar color choices to the ones in their schemes but with better undertones? like if i found a tan that was the same lrv as macadamia but didnt look greenish, how would they be able to know the difference since neighbors can’t choose the same scheme?

  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Every color has it’s own unique DNA. In the architectural color world there is no undertones. The term undertone is a shorthand word that is actually very inaccurate because it relies solely on an individual’s perception of a color and every single person perceives color differently because our eyeballs are all unique. So color science has given us methods and tools to evaluate color more scientifically. Natural lighting on site along with artificial lighting is the final piece in color selection. So, your choice and risk is how smart are their team and how dedicated are they at inspection. It’s a risk I wouldn’t advise. But I would push a different combo that suits your situation and get it approved. Best way. Plus, from a resale point of view, legally you would have to disclose in real estate documents this deviation. Just work with the approved colors. I think you can sell it. Take photos of your neighbors’ homes and show the differences so that goal is met too. Make their job easy to approve!

  • 3 years ago

    Flo knows color! She helped me with my exterior and that was a bear. I almost wish I had a set of approved colors to make it easier!


  • 3 years ago

    I always find her comments helpful when I see her commenting on other posts, I actually sought out her opinion on this. I don’t like being stuck with the hoa’s choices, because I don’t think they’re well thought out. I wish they would have hired a pro or at least a person from sherwin williams to help put them together. Very grateful for everyones help on here!

  • 3 years ago

    @Lori A. Sawaya Sorry to bother you, but I read my roof tiles, gravel and stone facade and the grout the facade is set in with my color muse but I’m now stumped on where to go from here. I don’t particularly like any if the approved color schemes, so I need to come up with my own and hope the HOA will approve it. I had originally narrowed the body choices down to Smoky Beige, Practical Beige, Beach House and Sands of Time. And trim choices to Sand Dollar and Fresco Cream. Now I’m not even sure if I’m in the right realm. Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated, I know you’re super busy!

    Roof:



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  • PRO
    3 years ago

    Now I’m not even sure if I’m in the right realm. Any advice you can give me would be much appreciated


    Swipe to the LCh values in the app.


    Record the LCh values for each element you measured on a spreadsheet.


    The "h" in LCh is the hue angle for the color.


    Use The Color DNA Table to check to see if the paint colors you're considering align with the hue angles of the elements you measure.


    If they're in the same hue family neighborhood, then you've established that there is a viable color relationship between the elements and the paint colors.


    If not, use The Color DNA Table to fine other paint colors that are a better fit with the colors you have to work with on your house.



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