Yeah, what a really diverse and interesting thread this has turned out to be! juniorballoon, Well as to the hydrochloric acid (toilet cleaner) details. It is great at removing limescale and iron deposits from toilets so, how about using it on a bath! The kitchen and bath stuff is really weak and won't make much impact on a really crusty bath. Squirt the stuff on, wipe it all around the bathtub with a cloth (wearing rubber gloves) and leave it for 15 minutes before "flushing". Well flushing for a bathtub is turn on the hot water on the shower and get on your knees and lean over a tub and wash/scrub it. The acidic fumes made me want to sneeze. for future reference a sneeze is a way your body rejects something that is harmful or irritating. Before you sneeze your body (well mine did) draws in an enormous lung full of air so the sneeze is as powerful as it can be. Ummm.. now I have a pair of lungs full of HCL fumes. That really hurt! To cut a long story short, the bathroom is very small, I made it out the door. Do I still use toilet cleaner to clean the bath? Yeah I do! once every couple of months. Go in there, coat the tub in "toilet cleaner" run away. Go in there, hold my breath, scrub, run away, exhale, inhale, go back in hold breath, scrub, run away. get the idea? BORAX, Looks like it kills mold, looks like it is reasonably safe to humans. SIMPLE GREEN, Looks like it is a de-greaser and so will clean things that are greasy. However not many of us have a greasy dirt problem in a greenhouse. (well I do but that is because of a Bio-fuel experiment that is classified at this time) Moldzyme, Now we are talking, it is Citric Acid, kills mold and is on the safe list! I mentioned vinegar (Acetic Acid) which is in the same family and is also on the safe list. Water Quality, ""Its high in Iron, high in Calcium and a lot of other stuff that's very supportive of algal growth"" We have many people here who are having problems with their water (me included) and there are threads discussing ways of treating water to reduce the problems. ""you are just trying to be rude and pick a fight because someone actually has the balls (if not the sperm) to disagree with you"" Balls but no sperm on a thread that mentions bisphenol A is really funny!!!! To go back to the question "Poly and bleach, is it safe?" No it is not really in the long term. There are better solutions to your problem of mold on your treated wood in your polycarbonate covered greenhouse than bleach. What this is turned into is how people clean the crap off their polycarbonate. In conclusion, my expert advice is spray on a substance like Moldzyme, wipe it off the wood, then spray again and leave it.

bellavita2, I bought a Maytag Bravos MTW6700 in May of 2008. (That model has been superseded by the models now available.) As you may already know, it's an Energy Star HE top loader - no agitator, huge capacity (mine is 4.6 cu ft), very efficient when it comes to water and electricity. I've not had any problem at all with mold, mildew, odor, or vibration. I do leave the top open after I've put wet laundry into the dryer; it's only shut when laundry is in it. Because my washer is a top loader, it can go on either side of the dryer with no problem. It is unbelievably quiet; the only sound I ever hear is water going in or draining out. I like it that there is a chime (not a buzzer) which alerts me when the washer is finished. The chime can be set on LO, HI, or OFF. ALL my experiences thus far with this washer have been excellent - far beyond good. There haven't been any cons to this point. The settings are very easy to use. I like it that I can choose water temp (hot/cold - warm/warm - warm/cold - cool/cold - cold/cold), spin speed (HI, MED, or LO), stain (pre-wash) cycle, extra rinse if needed, fabric softener if desired. I also really the selection of wash cycles -- Bulky for comforters, Sheets for sheets, Whites (the only cycle which uses the bleach dispenser), Normal (I use it for everyday clothes), Jeans/T-shirts, Wrinkle Guard (my favorite for our really nice church/office clothes), Delicates (for fine washables), Hand Wash (I use it for sweaters and some "extra"-fine washables). I really like the Soak cycle; I always use it on my guys' really dirty whites. I also like having a Rinse/Spin cycle and Spin cycle only. I use them more than I thought I would. I like the detergent, bleach, and fabric softener dispensers. I use vinegar in the f/s dispenser when I wash towels, which helps to keep them soft and fluffy, as it strips all detergent out. (Fabric softener coats towels, which greatly reduces their absorbency.) I also often combine vinegar w/liquid fabric softener (about half and half) when washing clothes, sheets, and comforters. I can wash many more laundry items per load in this washer (at least twice as many, sometimes 3x as many) than in the traditional top loader I had, which had the largest capacity on the market at the time I bought it. I can wash a king-size comforter in my washer with no problem. Whereas I used to wash at least 7-10+ loads per week, now I wash 3-5 loads each week because I can wash so many things at once. This washer gets my laundry much cleaner than any other washer I've ever owned, and it is gentle, even with the fast spin. I do use lower spin speeds on fine washables. When I wash sheets, they do not tangle as they used to do in my old washer w/agitator, and they dry much smoother, too. I haven't had any problem with my clothes wrinkling -- I do shake out clothes as I put them in the dryer, something I've always done. I usually get them out of the dryer when the chime sounds (it has a LO or HI or OFF setting) and immediately fold or hang them. If I can't get to the dryer immediately for some reason, I love the optional "Extra Time" setting (can't remember its exact name) which keeps tossing the clothes in cool air for up to 90 minutes. I don't use regular laundry detergent, for I've read over-sudsing can cause damage to HE machines, as well as invalidate a warranty. An online article compared using regular laundry detergent in an HE washer to using regular dish detergent in a dishwasher. I'm sorry I don't have that link for you; perhaps someone else will. I have a Maytag Bravos washer; my DIL has a Sears Oasis Canyon Capacity washer. Most people think they are identical, as they are both HE TL's built by Whirlpool (as is the Cabrio). However, she had odor problems with her washer when using liquid detergent -- a problem I've never had. She switched to using powder only and says that solved the problem. I use HE powder and liquid detergents, depending on what type laundry I'm washing, and I've never had a problem of any kind. I don't know anyone personally who owns a Cabrio. People have posted here (and elsewhere) about it in the past, both positive and negative. I've seen ads which say the newest Cabrio model has the largest capacity of any washer on the market -- 5 cu ft. Since my 4.6 cu ft washer holds our king-size comforter and huge loads of laundry, I'm satisfied with it. I'm not convinced that Cabrio/Oasis/Bravos washers (often identified as "COB" here) are totally identical, though they are similar and are based on the same principle. Several sources, both online and IRL, have told me Bravos washers are built with commercial parts, are the top of the line for that type washer. If I were buying a Bravos washer today, I would probably buy the one with the internal heater (which was not available when I bought mine) because I really like that feature on my dishwasher. However, I haven't had a problem with water not being hot enough, as some people here have had with other washers. Our hot water is good and hot, even more so in the summertime. We keep our hot water heater set at 140 degrees. I hope this helps. Let me know if you have any questions.

mamapinky- no offense taken! I knew it would kill you after reading so many of ya'll's posts about washing on hot and warm. And yes- sometimes everything (clothing only) is all washed together on cold- socks included. If I have enough for two loads, I will separate into darks and lights. I guess I will have to let you educate me on whatever hazards I am running into by washing this way.

Mich, I've seen that in the stores and wondered about it. Some detergents don't have enzymes, I stear clear most of the time, however not every load is tragic, so not every load needs enzymes. If there's not a bunch of stains and the clothes just have the normal dust and body oils, that bottle of All probably does a nice job on darks and colors. I'm a powder fan but lately I've been enjoying some liquids, lol. Actually I have found liquids without enzymes make my sheets feel very smooth, I've been using a new boutique one I've run across, I'm not sure yet though if its the lack of enzymes or because its a liquid, but they do feel better I'll send a pic of it in a sec.