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Is this Holy Mouse Ears?

gardenchick2010
3 months ago

Back in 2012 or 2014, when I was new to Hostas, someone gave me a mini with the tag included for "Holy Mouse Ears". I didn't think too much about it, just planted it, and let it be.


Eventually, as I learned more about named Hostas, I realized it didn't look right, with most of the leaves solid green. Over time the green leafed part grew and I divided it, but I left the coloured part with mama.


Here's a pic from 2018:





Today I finally dug it up and easily separated the green from the 3 teeny tiny coloured parts, which are now in a pot.





Three questions:


1) Does the potted part look like "Holy Mouse Ears?


2) Would the green leaves have a name?


3) How long should I leave the baby in the pot? Or should I put it in the ground now?


Thanks.

Comments (32)

  • peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
    3 months ago

    Yes, it does look like HME. They often revert especially if stressed. I was looking at my HME today and it has some reversion after a terribly hot dry year last year.

    HME is a sport of Royal Mouse Ears which is a sport of Blue Mouse Ears.

    If you were going to leave it in a pot I would put it in proper media as opposed to garden soil.

    It is adorable!

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    Thanks for your reply, peren.all.


    I haven't decided whether to leave it in the pot for a while, or just put it back in the ground. It just looked so small and vulnerable there in the ground surrounded by all the big hostas. LOL.


    If I leave it in the pot, I will get some proper soil. Right now, I don't have any at all, and that's on my next shopping list.


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  • ken_adrian Adrian MI cold Z5
    3 months ago

    if you dont change to media.. then put it back in the ground asap ..


    media is a water management system in a pot.. it allows water to flow freely thru the whole gob.. and excess out the bottom ..


    soil on the other hand.. will harden.. and sooner or later.. the water will just pool on the top.. and then seek the edge of the pot to go down ... but most of the roots wont be at the edge so you will have trouble watering properly ..


    what she said on the IDs ...


    bme will be blue.. as the name indicates.. if you cant site it out of hot mid day sun ...


    ken


    ps: boy its a throwback to the old camera lens cover as a scale ....lol ...

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    Thanks, Ken, for your reply, especially the explanation on the difference between media and soil. Since I'm not sure when I'll be out to get media, I'll put the baby HME back in the ground today.


    I know it's a mini, but how much do you think she'll grow this year? Should I give her some Miracle Grow?

  • djacobz568sewi
    3 months ago

    Here’s mine second year. The rocks around it started out as squirrel rocks to keep them from digging.



    I think I left them as it keeps me from stepping on it. I steppedon Mighty Mouse last year and he’s still in intensive care. I find it’s best to plant them along edges of beds or near a marker like a stone.

    debra

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    Very pretty, debra. Good idea marking it with the rocks. I should probably do the same thing, to protect it all summer, and also so I'll know where to watch for it next spring.

  • djacobz568sewi
    3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    Btw, I think it is HME. The green part perhaps is Blue Mouse Ears. Holy Mouse Ears is a sport of Royal ME and RME is a sport of Blue Mouse Ears. BME can look green in spring. Just a thought.

    debra

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  • Babka NorCal 9b
    3 months ago

    Agree that it is HME. Slow to grow, and often gets a green shoot, that I pull off.

    -Babka

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    Went out to check on HME yesterday morning, and was met with a tragic sight. Three leaves were lying on the ground !!!

    So I dug the poor baby out of the garden and put her back in a pot. (this time with bagged organic gardening soil)

    Then later in the day, I found another leaf had fallen off. No more damage this morning, thankfully.

    Below is a current pic of my baby HME. Any chance she can survive the trauma? Anything I can do to help save her?

    (the leaf on the bottom right was the last to fall off)



  • djacobz568sewi
    3 months ago
    last modified: 3 months ago

    Looks like some thing nibbled on it……… slugs????? Make sure none are getting into the pot. Just give it time and make sure it’s not planted too deep. So hard to judge with the little ones. :-(

    debra

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  • miles10612
    3 months ago

    Just planted a bunch of new minis and small hostas in pots and containers. We've got a new type of aggressive squirrel that has taken over our area. They are smaller, with gray chests but they drive off the other larger squirrels. They have taken to digging in pots, ripping off leaves, etc. I have a new hosta on life support thanks to their recent vandalism. My local nursery said that deer spray doesn't deter them at all. They had a spray which I bought and they also told me to try using some blood meal. Anyone tried blood meal to deter small critters? I also saw online that squirrels hate bone meal. Anyone use bone meal?

  • frankielynnsie
    3 months ago

    We also have had 3 very bad years with an overabundance of destructive squirrels. This year I just have had it so I have been trapping them (37 as of last month) and taking them 10 miles away to the other side of a lake in hopes they will not come back. I hate to kill anything and I know others will move into the areas vacated but not as many I hope. We are taking a break because I don't want to take a mother away from her babies. 37 squirrels in 1 huge oak and 2 pecans, they were totally unafraid and challenging us when we would go out to work in the yard. They wouldn't even run away, this was their yard. I am now seeing 3 every day--that is a manageable number.

  • Pieter zone 7/8 B.C.
    3 months ago

    Frankie, the Simple Answer… Squirrels typically do travel about 2 miles but squirrels can travel up to 10 miles. You can trap and release squirrel 10 miles away from the habitat, but it would be better to release far than 10 miles in which case, it would be impossible for them to return.


    I'm have a suburban lot but we're quite close to green spaces with trees and we get squirrels but have been 'relocating' them for the past 4 years or so. I have a Have-A-Heart trap on the cap of one of my fences that's used as an access path by them and they're so smart to go in by themselves I don't even have to bait the trap any more. They come into the raised door and step on the trigger when going to the other end. If memory serves we're up to 57 but it's been getting slimmer the last couple of months...May be it's time to bait again...

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    3 months ago

    Thanks Debra. I wondered about slugs. Poor hosta. I feel I should have just left the HME with the bigger blue one. Hopefully she'll survive the summer, and then I'll try putting her back in the ground before winter.


    Good luck with your hosta on life support Miles. So sad when they are attacked by "vandals". 😒

  • steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio
    3 months ago

    I put bone meal in the bottom of my first Hosta planting hole and it was promptly dug up by the squirrels. I stopped using it and only had one or two other issues with squirrels until recently. Now they like to bury their nuts in my pots. (Take it easy Ken). It hasn't gotten too bad yet, but I have used the rock technique twice now.

  • miles10612
    3 months ago

    Steve, I've had the squirrels in the past dig nuts into some pots but that happened in the fall. Now with the newer type of squirrels in my area, they dig every day. This morning I saw that they had been there already ripping out soil and exposing the roots of the minis that I just planted. They seem to have favorite pots, so far they haven't gone into the pots with the larger hostas, just the minis and the small hostas. I can't be out there before work and in the evenings every day replacing soil. One lady at the local nursery told me she plants in her pots and then puts chicken wire around the plants. I don't have the time or the energy for that.

  • frankielynnsie
    3 months ago

    Can you get a picture of the new squirrels? I would like to see if they are like the ones we have. Ours are the Eastern Gray Squirrel. They are just too in your face. No one in the neighborhood feeds them that I know of. I think there just aren't enough predictors and there has been a population explosion.

  • miles10612
    3 months ago

    Sure I will get a picture and post it. Shouldn't be hard, since there are always 5 or 6 in the yard.

  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    2 months ago

    Look who's recovering from her trauma. 🙂



  • djacobz568sewi
    2 months ago

    Surprise, surprise surprise! She’s recovering already.

    debra

  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    2 months ago

    I'm so proud of her. 🙂

  • peren.all Zone 5a Ontario Canada
    2 months ago

    So glad it is rebounding for you!

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    2 months ago

    HME is continuing to recover from the "attack of the slugs" or whatever ate her leaves. Just over a month has passed and looking so much better.


    Still looks like tiny leaves are appearing. How long will that keep up?


    Also wondering when to put her back in the ground. How long will she need to settle in, before the ground freezes? And will slugs, or other leaf eaters, still be around late summer?




  • bragu_DSM 5
    2 months ago

    Next time, mebbe an overhead projector for a size comparison? lol

  • djacobz568sewi
    2 months ago

    Slugs are always around if you don’t treat for them. At least in my garden they are. I treat spring and fall with 10% or more vinegar or ammonia to water. I literally drench the plants in fall after they are cut back, that will kill eggs laid. Then when the pips come up in spring, I do the same drench to kill any eggs left or hatched. Makes a huge difference!!

    debra

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    last month

    Thanks Debra for the slug repellant tip. Might try that in the fall. So 1 part vinegar to 9 parts water?

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    last month

    Another question about the vinegar/water slug repellant, do you spray it on the ground around the plant? Or is it safe to spray on the leaves?


    I'm having a major slug problem this summer, so I may need to do something sooner than later.

  • steve duggins(Z6a) - Central Ohio
    last month

    lots of good threads on the subject. Since I don't do it myself try this one:

    slug killing recipe


    You need to contact the slugs/eggs with the spray. My understanding is vinegar can damage the leaves but ammonia is safer. Also be sure you're using the right concentration and avoid spraying in the heat/sun of the day.

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  • gardenchick2010
    Original Author
    last month

    Thanks, Steve, for the reply, and the link.


    My little Holy Mouse Ears is still doing well, and getting new leaves, in her pot. But eventually she needs to go back in the ground and get ready for winter. So I need all the slug repellant tips I can get.

  • djacobz568sewi
    last month

    Yes, to confirm steves answer…….he’s lucky he doesn’t have to do this like I do……2x a year!! But yes, 10 parts water to 1 part ammonia or vinegar. Or 20 to 1 if you like, just to be mean……..hahaha! 🐌

    debra