French Country or Mediterranean in Coastal New England?
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Comments (9)Eastern White Pines are very intolerant to direct salt spray. There are other pines to plant that are more tolerant such as the Austrian Pine. Spruces are probably better at tolerating the conditions you describe. As you said, Eastern Red Cedar is an excellent choice. Just about any other Juniper will work, too. Crabapples and especially Hawthorns should work. These would give you blooms, and fruit for interest. The latter would also give you thorns unfortunately. Just about anything with thorns will grow well in the conditions you describe, though. Anything in the Elm family should work. The wood is cross-grained so it's very resistant to splitting. The related Zelkova is a tree that I've seen in the situations you describe and they are doing fine. They have nice fall color. Even though they aren't native, Ginkgos will survive just about anything you throw at them. Their unusual leaves create a lot of interest. They are the best for brilliant yellow fall color. I don't live right on the water but I do live within view of the ocean and oaks are everywhere particularly members of the red oak family. I would suggest a scarlet oak for your situation. They love terrible soil and have great fall color. You can buy your average run of the mill red oak at Home Depot or Lowe's for a very cheap price. Bur Oak is another good choice but they are harder to find. The other tree prevalent in my area is the tupelo or black gum tree. While normally associated with wet soil. They are very adaptable to dry, infertile, sandy soil. They have wood that is cross-grained like elms so they absolutely will not break in the wind. They have great fall color. Sweet gums would probably work for you if you can handle the spiky gumballs that they drop. Fall color is excellent. I've seen Larch trees near the ocean around here especially in Plymouth and they do just fine. Honeylocusts would probably do OK. The Kentucky coffeetree is not common here but I have seen some around and they do just fine. They would be very tolerant of the conditions you describe. Their long pods are interesting but messy....See MoreAre we really considered a Mediterranean climate???
Comments (24)Don't forget that higher elevations with more rain and cold are also within mediterranean climate zones both within the Mediterranean Basin as well as here in California. There are local microclimates here in the SF Bay Area that receive up to 70/80 inches of rainfall, while less than 5 miles away it might be only 30 inches. They are both mediterranean climates as they get predominantly winter rainfall and dry summers. There is no typical mediterranean climate; as an example, Rome gets more summer rainfall than southern Spain, and it can and does freeze and snow occasionally in both Rome and Lebanon/Israel. Coastal California tends to get summer fogs which actually allow our version of coastal rainforests to exist, such as the mixed conifer/oak woodlands/coastal Redwood forests along the wetter slopes. California tends to have a longer dry season than most other mediterranean climate locations, South Africa's Western Cape tends to have a shorter dry season, but a much windier climate year round with resultant higher moisture loss due to winds rather than lack of rain. There is no "typical" mediterranean climate, other than the fact that they all have predominant winter wet periods and dry summers, which are a rarity in the rest of the world, and represent less than 2% of the world's climate zones. I would disagree about New Zealand not having microclimates that seem similar to a mediterranean climate. There are certainly areas that resemble one, with rather sparse summer rainfall, and generally mild year round temperatures. It might be interesting to note that tropical high elevation cloud forests often resemble climatic conditions of our northern California summer fog drenched mediterranean coastal areas, and Californian and other mediterranean plants do as well in these tropical high elevation environments as tropical cloud forest plants do in our foggy coastal California gardens. Knowing the locations, elevations and habitat conditions of mediterranean region plants and the temperature range and rainfall totals is a better predicator of success for replicating good growing conditions than overgeneralizing, as there are plenty of higher elevation plants that are prefectly cold hardy and wet tolerant and also from mediterranean climate zones. One generalization that is pretty easy to make successfully is tiny leaved, gray foliaged/waxy foliage plants from mediterranean zones will typically want full sun and excellent winter drainage to survive in higher winter rainfall zones such as the PNW, while succulent foliaged plants from areas that seldom freeze will be less successful in areas that stay very wet in winter and also freeze....See MoreRE: Spanish Revival/Mexican/Mediterranean Style - Part IX
Comments (150)BinsB How GREAT! I'd guess by now the 'kids' are knocking from the outside - yes? Paleese post a pic if you can. We'd all (I'm sure) love to see your accomplishments :-))) after waiting soooo long. Love the orange colors of the nursery but mmm - are they really going to sleep in one crib? :-)) Just kidding. When you have time, which likely won't be for awhile I'm sure, would love to see the nursery with the paper flowers, et al. Not to worry about the non-span house of present. It's the spirit inside that can carry it thru. Imagine what a tough time I have in my location. LOL!! You'll have lotsa fun (when/if you can find the time) doing some special stuff in your new abode. Trop - hmmm pictures this year? LOL! That will be fun to see. I'll look forward (but won't hold my breath too awfully long). :-))) I'm thinking maybe you just eliminated the kitchen altogether and are doing take out now? Houseful it's great to have you posting again. Perhaps you can help us breathe some life back into this thread as I know Bins is going to be rather busy over the next while. :-)) If it weren't for her dedication, I'm sure this thread would no longer exist. I have a few things on my plate but hopefully they will be resolved shortly and I can return to my decorating love. And speaking of thread(s), I didn't check but I'm thinking we must be getting close to limit - yes? Should we be starting a new thread? Waddya all think? Take care all, Holly...See MoreCoconuts in the Mediterranean?
Comments (75)They survive a little in the inner regions, after a while they get sick and die. The interior, is influenced by too the north. They are very rare in Turkey. But it is close to the sea and there are a few secluded rocky and secluded bay places, you can see a few of them. They are not under protection. People too insensitive, trees not well-maintained. And it has coconut fruits, it is not delicious at all. It's obvious they do not belong here. They do not like this area, majority is right in this regard. Tam çevrisi: Hindistan cevizleri Türkiyede varlar, sahile yakın 7-8 kilometre mesafede olan iç kesimlerde pek uzun süre hayatta kalamıyorlar, sanırım kuzey esintilerden etkileniyorlar. Sorun tam olarak nedir bilinmesede, onlar hakkında birşeylerin eksik yapıldığı kesin, yada ortalama sıcaklıklar düşük. Türkiyede nadiren görülüyorlar, ancak o da, denize yakın olan bazı tenha yada kayalık kuytu koy yerlerinde büyük birkaç hindistan cevizine rast gelebilirsiniz. Koruma altında değiller, tohumların nereden geldiği hakkında fikrim yok, yeni yeni çimlenenler de gördüm, sanırım torosların yarattığı yarı tropik koşullar onların hayata tutunmasına yardımcı oluyor. Ocak ayında birkaç kilometre ötede sıfır derece söz konusu iken buradaki birkaç derece fark ile ılık iklim farkını hissedebiliyorsunuz, bence bu mini alanlar, akdeniz ikliminden ayrı gizli tropik koşullardır, yoksa o ağaçlar orada asla yaşamazlardı. Edindiğim bilgilere göre ortalama yüksek sıcaklıklar: aralık, ocak, şubat ve mart aylarında 22 derece altında olmaması gerekiyor, dolayısı ile bu saptamalarda bunu haklı çıkarıyor. Bu konuda yöre halkı duyarsız, onlar koruma altında değiller, ağaçlar bakımlı değil. Üzerlerinde olgunlaşmış meyveleride var, fakat hiç lezzetli değiller, belkide buraya ait olmadıkları için olabilir ve bu bölgeyi sevmiyor olabilirler, dolayısı ile burada yapılan yorumlarda çoğunluk bu açıdan haklı gibi görünüyor, çoğu endemik bitki kendi ana vatanında güzeldir. Gerçi hindistan cevizi çok nazik ve tuhaf bir ağaç kendi bölgesinde bile ihmale gelmiyor, zor bir bitki, akdenizde bununla zaman kaybetmek akıl karı değil gibi görünüyor....See MoreRelated Professionals
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