Beauty is in the eye of the beholder
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Comments (18)Oh, yes, I forgot PJP II. that is one rose that is well known for beautiful fragrance and gorgeous flower form, from HoovB and JeffAurora! But I have yet to smell it. I am sure that next year it will appear at my local nursery. Sorry, Ken, but I have to completely disagree with you OWWWWW! Artificially loaded nitrogen that is 12-6-8 combined with additional organics is way too high!!!! Remember when people use those artificial fertilizers, they actually unbalance the soil. It makes the soil less hospitable to earthworms and actually increases insect populations like thrips and other garden pests which love high impact nitrogen soil. I truly believe that organics fertilizers do produce BEAUTIFUL AND CONSISTENT BLOOMS, in fact I am willing to bet that my organic Gardenville outbeats any artificial fertilizer. It only has a 2.1-3.3-2.2 ratio but it always creates bursts of healthy foliage and blooms and does not wreak havoc with the soil. Hybrid tea roses just vary in their shape. Not all hybrid teas are created equal. Some hybrids will produce superior form. Fragrant Cloud is well known for being big, showy, but not classical. My local nursery always uses the artificial fertilizers to feed their roses because they want to force out the big blooms but their Fragrant Cloud looks mushier and their Chicago Peace looks very pouffy like a giant petticoat of lively rainbow candy instead of the classical spiraling form. My hybrid tea roses are fed the exact same Gardenville Sea Tea and the ones that are famous for classical sculpted beauty remain beautiful and sculpted. The only exception is my Lincolns but I am also thinking this has to do with their age and maturity-they've only had only 2 classical spiraling blooms (first-year roses that grew from 9" to 7' tall). I have a beautiful fragrance sport Gemini and it has the most beautiful awesome spiraling forms ever! and so does my Climbing America. I've got tons of spirals from Aromatherapy-very consistent. So again, my feeling is that every HT will vary in the amount of "spiral". Again, same fertilizer-the same consistent prolific blooms, but how classical they get depends on the breed of the rose. My roses: And here are those roses which consistently have their pretty but non-classical shapes and therefore they do not! have outstanding beauty. Again, I think it's important that we really evaluate what the rose looks like normally and what its average appearance should look like. PJP is one rose that is famous for its form and fragrance and it should be kept that way. I absolutely cannot! recommend Fragrant Cloud because in most gardens it does not have that drop-dead gorgeous spiraling form. It is not! an outstanding beauty rose....See MoreHe Meant Well thread
Comments (2)I had a couple of pink flamingos in my yard for awhile. I named them 'Tongue' and 'Cheek'. They finally died. I think of,embarrassment....See MoreCulling hostas, and an issue on ethics!
Comments (16)would it be considered unethical to give it away to someone who is happy to "just get a free hosta"? ===>>> so to sum it up.. you feel guilty giving gifts????? what does ethics have to do with gifting friends???? the recipient has two options.. which i have personally exercised over the years ... be thrilled as heck.. and treasure the gift.. its value being the friendship.. rather than the value ... [and i think that is the key to your dilemma ... its the value of the friend.. not the gift itself ...] versus... smiling.. thanking them.. and going home and throwing it in the compost pile .. because it is the invasive weed we know it is.. lol ... years later saying.. oh that didnt come up the next spring [this is an ethics issue.. lol] ... as far as i am concerned.. there is no ethics in giving a gift ... [as compared to not gifting treasured friend] its up to them to value it appropriately and that is the friendship.. not the gift itself .. OK.. enough belly button gazing this early in the morning ... ken...See MoreNew top five prettiest red Hybrid Teas
Comments (28)Gorgeous reds!!!! I have very few. I got rid of Mr. Lincoln and Oklahoma for being stingy. I have Velvet Fragrance and Alec's Red. I want them to grow taller, but so far they're staying short. Velvet Fragrance has an incredible fragrance!!! Nummykitchen - those roses are beyond beautiful!!! Wow!!! Such great pictures too!! Dan - love the color on your Olympiad!! Fragrancenutter - Striped Intuition must be fabulous for you to keep a scentless rose. I don't want to get it because of the lack of fragrance. But.... Sara-Ann - looks lovely and ruffled. :) Alec's Red - a shortie for me....See Morenickel_kg
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