Bill. I'll be first..

For me I treat them better in winter than I do the next 3 seasons.

In winter they get several fans, lots of artificial lights, two humidifiers which keep it so humid in there I sweat at night, and a good porous mix watered with mostly rain water. Spoiled I'd say and it's probably the reason I get lots of growth but no blossoms.

Now when it comes to spring as in now, I kicked them outside. Each man to his own. maybe the abuse will wake them up and put out flowers. Maybe the cold nights and letting them dry out more often will do it.

As long as they are getting LOTS of light under my shade cloth, more than they ever will inside, I would think they won't get too cold or rot. With the sun angel only getting higher it helps. In fact, I even had them out there when we got snow, and they are still growing. lol

I will not leave them out in the fall when it gets that cold though.

I know they sense fall and begin to slow down which then I know with the lowering of the sun, they would rot at the same cold temps as now. The same cold temps in fall would kill them where as in the spring it does not. Strange, but it works))

Mike

I live in a similar climate to you. However, we are in the midst of "second winter" as I like to call it. Possible snow overnight. Blah! I used to take a lot of houseplants outside in the Summer and drag them back in the Fall. These were mostly hibiscus, abutilon, poinsettias, sansevierias. But I have mostly given it up. It was just too much work and took up too much space.

As far as my hoyas, the only one I have ever taken outside was a multiflora that I propagated last year. I will say that it loved it outside. It grew like crazy and formed and retained a blooming peduncle. So I will likely propagate outdoors again this year but I may not relocate established hoyas. I'm just not sure.

I am planning to take most of my sans outside. They seem to really resent being indoors. But I'm still on the fence about other plants.

Mike, I hear ya. For some reason, the cold nights now don't seem to affect them whereas in the fall I wouldn't think of letting them get that cold! Mine are in a GH, but it's unheated, so the drops at night are 10-15 degrees. They seem to like it. I only wish I hadn't exposed them to as much sun as quickly as I did.

Popmama, I'm the opposite of you. I put my hoyas outside already, but the sans I've kept indoors for at least another week. I guess these plants are tougher than we think!

ive reread all those gorgeous words 3 times.. and i still dont know where you are .. but that might be the coffee buzz .. and yet pop says he is in a similar clime ... big city name???

other than that .. the only thing that strikes me is that you repot and take them outside .. there might be some good in keeping them inside for a week or so to let them settle down from the potting stresses.. before you then stress them again taking them outside ...

why heap stress on stress on stress ... its stressful ...

other than that.. you have a system that seems to work for you.. so two green thumbs up ...

ken

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LUvzzEtNevY

Bill and others, I was looking at my Hoya's today and boy are they happy outside even on these colder nights. In fact, I think it's triggering blooms which does not happen in my home and I'll bet the night temp drops and lack of watering at times is causing it. Time will tell about that but boy the colors and new growth are becoming vivid as the sun does a great job bringing that out)))

Ken, hilarious!! Love that ciip. Thanks

I usually don‘t take my indoor plants outside because of the fear of bugs. Haha!!! Curious to hear what you guys/gals use as a preventative and how often??

Tika, I have yet to bring any in with bugs....I use Neptune's Harvest 'fish emulsion' all summer as a general spray and fertilizer. I will spray them all down with an all purpose horticultural oil twice before coming inside and then soak them under water for 15 minutes in a warm bucket of soapy water to suffocate anything left in the soil or on the pots...No bugs, ever, unless I buy one and forget this method)

Thank you Mike! I found a single web on my Chelsea today and freaked out. Put her in quarantine and sprayed with neem oil and soapy water. Ugh! Did I say I hate bugs lol

Bill, Yikes!!!! I would have had a heart attack!!

Cool snake!! Being from Arizona I love weird critters. lol

All, it's a northern water snake, maybe 2-3 feet long. I have a creek that runs through my property and they are always here in my yard. They have a nasty dispositions and will even chase after me. They bite but they're not poisonous, however the bite does hurt (don't ask how I know). I find them quite often. I never hurt 'em cause it's not my nature, I just appreciate them for what they are. (Unless they mess with my hoyas, then they get a good talking to!) 😁

Jojo, I used to work in Goodyear. I had a facility on Litchfield Blvd just south of Luke AFB. Are you anywhere near there?

@Bill M. not really, I'm in Tucson. A few hours away I think.

Bill, that is a cool looking snake. For me it's frogs that sneak into my greenhouse and make that a permanent home. I have two that will croak as soon as they hear my voice outside. They park themselves on the top of my potted plants and sun bathe. Then will literally eat crickets out of my hand. I guess they have gotten to know me. Ha

As for my Hoya?

They are in for a real treat! Finally 70's for the next ten days. They already look very happy out there. It's nice to water them every day and know they actually like it verses having to much how much to water inside. They love the sunlight and breezes outside. New growth coming all over the place even while the nights have been very cold. 38 degrees last night. But starting today finally as sprung should be, 50's every night and higher))) I'll take a few updated photos and show you where they are and how they look.

Jojo, you are too funny. I have always know you to be a buggy sort of person, reptile too. lol Love the praying mantis you have posted years ago. I wish you still had that pic. Very unique.I'll bet you would love a week in the 70's about now..

Mike, try sneaking a kiss to one of those frogs. It may be a princess in disguise!

Mike,

I wish we had frogs! But I do look forward to our desert toads as soon as the rains start.

I have a crazy lizard this summer that follows me around the yard like a lost puppy! lol

Mike I remember the mantis. lol.. I really don't like the big ones, they are mean!!!

I had one in my greenhouse this spring and I chased it out with a broom! ROFL!!!

I don't know if my hoya's can go outside here. I know some are grown local in greenhouses, but that is a somewhat protected environment from hot winds and our crazy monsoon season coming soon!

We hit 100!!!! today! we dont usually until mid June.

Mike, I'm not happy if it's under 80! LOL!!!! But 100 so soon is a little much for our plants! They are so confused!

JoJo

Jojo - ahhh, but it's, a dry heat right?! 🤣

I remember working in AZ, the summers were brutal. Humidity was barely readable. You must spend a lot of time keeping those plants hydrated.

One of the things I loved about AZ were the humming birds. They were fantastic!