Tilts tent/pop up 3 month after installed vinyl planks over tile
Han John Tse
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Han John Tse
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10 year old Ceramic Tile floor popping up..Help!
Comments (11)Ceramic tile is known to do stuff like this (tenting) because it is slightly porous. Porcelain tile has LESS chance of tenting because its porosity is extremely low - almost impervious to moisture. It is much lower than ceramic. And yes, it can take as much as 10 years for a "bad" install to show itself in wet conditions. It can take that long to get the tile so wet that it's expansion is so great it breaks the bond of the adhesive. And yes...cut back adhesive is a poor substrate to bond to (for the Original Poster). Both of these photos (OP and andreadell79) are complete redos. Once a section starts to tent, you have to assume the WHOLE THING is going to go to he!! in a hand basket. Sorry but these are complete redos....See MoreFlooring? vinyl planks throughout or wood and tile
Comments (46)My husband and I recently relocated from Indiana to Florida. We installed LVP in our Indiana home prior to selling. With so many different types of flooring (hardwood being one) we wanted a co-hesive look for the 1968 home prior to putting it on the market. We used floating as to not damage the existing hardwoods should the new owner choose to refinish. When we moved to Florida the home we bought had old carpet, it was a no brainer on our part to replace the carpet with LVP due to humidity issues is Florida. We used the same brand just a lighter shade in our very large greatroom, dining, kitchen and guest bath areas. LVP is easy to clean, wears well with our two dogs, stays cool and provides a great waterproof surface when coming in from the pool. It's affordable and relatively easy to install for any DIYer with some experience in home remodel. We get compliments all the time and visitors have to reach down and touch the floor as they believe it is hardwood. I am sold on the product....See Morevinyl floor over tile
Comments (16)LVP (Luxury vinyl PLANK) is often SUPER THIN (like 1/8"). When vinyl is soft and flexible and THIN it often sinks INTO the groves and hollows sitting BELOW it. We call this telegraphing. It happens to ANYTHING that is THIN and FLEXIBLE. And I mean anything (carpet, lino, vinyl, paint, etc). This is the BIGGEST PROBLEM with laying LVP over tile. You are almost GUARANTEED to see the "tile" floor underneath. The SECOND biggest problem with LVP (or LVT...they are interchangeable terms for some of us) is it normally DOES NOT allow soft underlayment (the squishy stuff used under RIGID laminate or hardwood). And there is your SECOND issue. You must put the vinyl DIRECTLY over the old tile. As I see it, there are TWO OPTIONS for you: 1. Do this properly = jack out the tile, grind the subfloor, throw down Self Leveling Compound (SLC) to give your floor a lovely SMOOTH surface for the vinyl to sit "nicely". The above can cost $2/sf to remove the tile and another $2/sf to grind/level what is left. 2. You SINK the tiles in CEMENT and then lay the vinyl over top. To sink/float the tiles in cement, you need to GRIND the tiles (gives the tile surface a rough finish = something for the concrete to grab onto) and then you have to PRIME the tile (gives the concrete something to hold on to) and then you have to FLOAT the floor (coating of concrete) so that it is smooth. Then you wait for that to dry and then a final sanding/grinding to get rid of any small bumps/bubbles that are ALWAYS present. This should cost $2/sf for materials and $2-$3/sf for LABOUR (that's A LOT of grinding). Sigh....as you can see you are "damned if you do and damned if you don't". I ALWAYS vote to jack out the tiles for one SIMPLE reason: reduction of floor heights. If you ADD more concrete to your tiles, you will cause plenty of upset with your door/trim/appliance heights. That tiny 1/8" vinyl just added 1/2" (or more) of floor height. And that could be a deal breaker for all the doors, appliances and trim in the space. Not to mention the floor height changes where the vinyl meets anything else. There is NO SUCH THING as "cheap" subfloor preparation. You either pay the Piper on the way in, or you pay the Piper on the way out. And if you do it after he leaves, you could find the price is DOUBLE what it should have been - simply because the job had to be done twice: once the wrong way and then once the "right way"....See MoreLuxury vinyl plank floors impossible to keep clean. Any advice?
Comments (46)I preface this reply by saying that it may step on some toes and is not for the easily offended... Think of your floor cleaning like your teeth cleaning: you can brush, floss, and gargle on your own to your heart's delight. But at the end of the day, it can't replicate the cleaning performed by a hygienist in the dentist office. In other words, you need to have a professional cleaning company periodically clean your vinyl floors. I know, most of you DYIers had it installed to get away from carpet, tile, and other flooring that has traditionally required professionals to maintain. Truth is, you DO NOT own the equipment needed to get these floors, particularly the ones with a textured profile, completely clean like they were prior to install. And while the flooring companies didn't outright lie to you (calling it low maintenance rather than no maintenance), they certainly led you astray by letting you to believe that a little hot water or their overpriced, product-specific cleaner was all you needed. So, find a reputable local cleaner to professionally clean your LVP floors. Got kids and dogs? Do you go barefoot or wear outdoor shoes in the house? Get your floors professionally cleaned every single year. The rest of you? Every 2-3 years. In the meantime, stop using steam. Stop using acidic (vinegar) and high ph (ammonia) products. Dump the bleach, Murphy's Oil Soap, Rejuvenate, Bona, Mop n Glow, Orange Glo, and all types of polishes. Only use a neutral cleaner in between professional cleanings. Oh, and those area rugs you put down to cover up the unsightliness of your floors? They're likely voiding your flooring warranty (probably not a big deal because many have already done so with their unapproved cleaning methods and lifestyle)....See MoreCharles Ross Homes
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