Thank you! It may be thrip damage now, but I do know all the rain must have played a role too. Most of my Belinda's Dream blooms were not attractive at all, but did improve by the end of their bloom cycle, same way with Pope John Paul II and Souvenir de la Malmaison. I'm sure things will improve. Judy, sorry about your JB problem, hope they're not too bad, they should know better than to bother your beautiful roses!

@summersrhythm_z6a: thank you for the suggestions again. I completely agree with your logic about ordering harder-to-find roses via mail order as a general rule of thumbs. That's why I added Ascot/Nahema in my original order :). Please let us know what you end up picking from Palatine! In my case, I haven't been able to find any purple/mauve colored roses in nearby Home Depots/Lowes (I don't have a car so I can't really go far out). Also from my experience another mauve/purple rose (Plum perfect, mail order also for $11), it doesn't grow very well as own roots so I am thinking of trying out different rootstocks. @ Lilyfinch z7 mid tn: thank you for the suggestion, I did end up swapping Poseidon for Chartreuse de parme! As soon as I read its description as having fragrance "out of this world", I was sold! I am super excited and will keep everyone posted when my order arrives. @ bethnorcal9: I am so sorry to hear, but hopefully the universe will find a way to bring EMMA HAFTL to you SOON :).

I am speechless… What an amazing thread! Thank you, Helen! and Everyone for your lovely photos & comments on NYRP roses. I tried perusing most of it this evening! I am new to NIRP roses but after seeing a few weeks ago Helen’s roses I choose a few for my spring list from Palatine. Also, I have been eyeing a few of them from your garden photos on other threads. I am so excited to order in Dec.: 1. Rosemantic Pink 2. Rosaraie du Chatelet 3. Maybe Rosemantic Fushia/ or Kordes-Dark Desire Parfuma (Can’t decide.) Rosemantic Cream & Anastasia are gorgeous-love them, too! @Ceres , Love your Forever Rose, do you know if it is BS resistant. @Amanda Dickerson, I see you have BS, too, looking for resistant roses. Me, too. After reading your experoence w/BS on NIRP roses I am concerned, but wish to try a few. However, I have had great success w/Kordes roses & Meilland roses not getting BS-the most resistant in my garden. I have Polar Express, , Earth Angel, Summer Romance, Beverly, Wedding Bells, Madame Anisette, Pomponella , Cinderella, Lions Fairy, & more Kordes doing well-almost no BS. I have Francis Meilland, Princess Charlene de Monaco, Ives Piaget, Cream Ives Piaget (Classic Woman) Meillands-almost no BS. Almost any rose can get BS if sitting in water-with way too much rain this year, but many had zero BS anyway. They are the best BS resistant roses I have out of a hundred roses almost. I have others if you need a longer BS resistant list. Savanna is BS resistant-zero BS! Carol, Thanks for pointing out this thread. I am so busy…I am missing these anazing threads! @kathyc_z10 Kathy, Thank you for your photos of Roseraie Du Chatelet -what a magnificent rose-love its name-it’s color is beautiful & excited about its vigorous growth! NIRP ROSES are so lushious! THANK YOU, everyone! again for your comments & photos on NIRP International roses & website. What a wonderful company of superb roses! Can’t wait to put in my first order for them!

htracyn, I don’t think you’ll be disappointed! They look so healthy, and Palatine Roses are superior quality! I waited too long, and by the time I decided to order for 2021, they were sold out of everything I wanted. Hopefully I won’t let that happen again. First year I’ve missed since 2014. What are some of the varieties?