Thanks Bill. I decided to stay with the 12 X 12 since having only 4 big tiles on the diagonal I think would look funny. I think I will use the 16 X 16 Tile in my small kitchen since there, I will have more tiles.

Great link, Marti! Thanks for the info on the hangingpots, dedtired. I was going to ask about just that, since I'm bad about watering. It also seems like the wind could be a problem. Oh how I wish I could cover our fence with vines! My parents have a "volunteer" vine on part of their fence in the summer. I wonder how long it would take to get going. I love that herb spiral idea, too.

In my 13x19 kitchen, I had (still have till the reno) a 6 person table - it is too big. The table is 4x6. Here are pics so you can get an idea: First let me say, there is about a foot of space between the table and the window wall. The counters are 24" so that means I have 11 feet for length of the table. 6 of those feet are the table, leaving 2.5 feet on each side, which sounds like it might be enough, but truly is not. When someone is sitting on the one end, you can barely squeeze through to get out the door (and that's if you are a smaller person). The cabinets aren't accessible if anyone sits on the other side. This shows how little space is on the door side:

Molly, from one lamp to the other, the whole width of the wall is 179 inches. My sectional is 119 inches. So, do you think a 9 x 12 would look good? I I calculated that there will still be 35 inches left of the floor which means almost 18 on both sides. Also, I was wondering that 8 x 10 would fit the sectional just exactly leaving no room for an end table or even a space between the chair and sectional for comfortable seating. Since 8 x 10 means that the longer side is 120 inches and my sectional is 119 inches, there will not be any rug space beside the sectional. I hope what I’m saying makes sense. My husband feels like an 8 x 10 would work and he hates returning stuff constantly lol..but I’m not sure. However, I’ll wait till my sectional arrives on Saturday to fully check the arrangement before I decide to return.