I make my own dog food. Many vets have inside brain-washed monetary interests and good salesmanship. Been through that.

We have settled on a few blues 2020. What we can get from the wholesaler. Full wheels. (3-5 pound wheels). Limits our variety since pre-covid we would get 1/4 lbs. Try new things random. We are content for a while. Good quality and satisfied. As long as we have a good feta, a blue/gorgonzola-ish, a white aged Irish cheddar, a creamy tart goat, we are good. I make my own easy ones....mozzarella is so easy.

Would I purchase the cans via shipping? No. It was a welcome gift. I do miss my slivers of Maytag and humboltFog....1/4 lbs. A few varieties from the cheese monger...no biggie. Those days should/will return eventually. Patience.

If all goes to heck-n-back, I know how to make my own cheese. Good enough.

Some human food is fine for pets in limited quantities. Some is poisonous. Some is too rich for them to digest. None of it should regularly take the place of commercial food except under the instructions of a vet.

I have a close relative who's a vet, my insights are from them and not created by my imagination. With pets, if you don't know if something is okay once in awhile in limited quantities, stick to commercial pet food.

Yeah, for centuries pets were fed what was available. That's probably true today among people who don't know better. "Doctors" treated sick patients with chants and leeches. Sure, and cats were let outside, where they were subject to predators, diseases and other factors that limited the length and quality of their lives.

More is known now, better things to do are well understood and recommended. For people who aren't stuck with uninformed old ways.

Processed food for humans, processed foods for pets. My choice, your choice. No interest in discussion.

I've heard of it, but haven't seen it to try it. I would try it given a chance. I assume it's whole cheese. I bet it tastes great.

I did get to try cheese in a can that was processed cheese a long time ago. Different thing than whole cheese- and it was ok. Kind of like Velveeta in a can instead of a foil wrapped loaf. It was a camping trip, and someone brought a couple cans of the stuff for cooking with. I remember cheese in a jar when I was a kid too, but I think that was probably processed product and not whole cheese.

The cheese info is wonderful. I will order the Washington State cheese sometime soon. Sleevendog if you ever have time, I'd love for you to start a thread on cheese making.

Dog food? It comes up a couple times a year, always a hot topic. A recent one that was pretty good and posting different perspectives: https://www.gardenweb.com/discussions/5838129/what-type-of-dog-food-do-you-use#n=88

Woof!

I wish my lab pup would stick to eating food.

I'm really surprised at how many people use Purina pro plan and not the higher end foods like Orijen, Wellness Core, Taste of the Wild, Merrick etc.

So funny that a discussion of Cougar cheese has morphed into a discussion of dog food....cats gone to the dogs!

Definitely more interesting!

Higher price and higher quality don't necessarily go together. The manufacturer of Orijen and Acana brands was sued not too long ago for excessive heavy metal and dangerous substance contamination in its products.

There are many people who do many things they sincerely think to be in the best interest of their pets that may often be a solution to a problem they don't have. It's easy for manufacturers to put out products that pull on heart strings of or appeal to the well intended but otherwise ignorant pet owners and a lot of products and a lot of foods do just that.

Never heard of it but would try it. My Italian student found some Parmesiano (sp) cheese in the giant cheese section of one of the nearby town's Kroger's. He didn't think it was good enough because it "obviously" hadn't been aged enough. So he had his parents send some from Italy that was aged for 36 months. I can't tell the difference and they both taste okay but are very dry and when you chew it, feels like it has ground up glass in it. I'm eating a piece now and prefer "inferior" American type cheeses.

He also got a fancy cake that he thinks is the best thing in the world. I was eating a piece wondering where I had tasted this before....then I realized it not only tasted just like a cinnamon roll without the cinnamon and sugar on top but had the same texture of one.

Not sure if anyone else noticed, but on the Cougar Gold review page, there's a link to another article about a different type of canned cheese from India - Amul:

https://www.bonappetit.com/story/amul-cheese-indianish

Apparently it's very popular.

That Amul looks like velveeta in a can. Cougar Gold is real cheese; a wonderful cheddar.

eta: I just read the article about it. Great food for people without refrigeration, it seems. I grew up with Velveeta toasted cheese sandwiches, so I can appreciate the author's nostalgia about it.

Wine is a fermented product. Good wine can be fermented and aged in many different vessels, not just oak barrels. from stainless steel, clay amphorae to concrete eggs. These variations can have profoundly different effects on the finished product.

Likewise, cheese is a fermented product. It is possible that aging cheese in a can may produce a cheese that is better than "fresh" cheese.

dcarch

So funny that a discussion of Cougar cheese has morphed into a discussion of dog food....cats gone to the dogs!

Funnier that cheese in a can led me to a night of binge watching Dr. Pimple Popper videos, starting with removing a cyst from someone’s butt.

Sled dogs in northern Canada were usually fed an all fish diet. Even today, dogs are usually tossed raw fish as a meal on a regular basis.

Not sure if that would be frowned upon by a processed and sanitized society, or extolled by the “back to nature” set.

After reading about the new Toto toilet that analyzes your rear end, then sends recipe recommendations to your phone to improve your diet if needed...😳

Then went down the CougarGold rabbit hole. Univ of Idaho is just 10 miles from U of Wash. Sold all over the immediate area. I admit the first gifted can 20 years ago was puzzling. (Much better than the box of potatoes they sent one year that froze in transport....and we were out of town for two weeks.)

It costs 18$ to produce one can. They are making 125,000 cans per year now. Not pasteurized, as said many times. It is aged one year so fresh out of the can will be excellent as well as further aging.

I don't find it expensive for the quality. 25$ for close to two pounds. Goes to a good educational cause.

"Univ of Idaho is just 10 miles from U of Wash."

Not unless they have seriously rearranged WA state geography!! I think you mean Washington State University, not the U of WA :-) Significant rivalry between the two colleges, located on opposite sides of the state.

After reading about the new Toto toilet that analyzes...

Holy cr@p SD (pun intended) I thought you were kidding! Then I googled just in case.

(slightly off topic, but I'm sharing anyway!)

Olychick, RE: Velveeta toasted cheese sandwiches. I still think Velveeta makes the best grilled cheese! I have exactly ONE every year, in honor of my sweet younger sister who passed away in 2006. When she was a little girl she always requested Campbells chicken noodle soup and toasted cheese sandwiches for her birthday dinner. The rest of the family always rolled their eyes! My brother and I still honor her on her birthday every year by having that same meal.

Lol!!! well, if you have a dog or cat most likely you have an idea of their digestive health from picking up their poo. But what does Toto say -- "Nickel, you might want to add some pumpkin to your diet" or "Nickel, fewer prunes, more dairy" -- Literally laughing out loud...!

“Whoa!!! Rinse your dishes better!”

"Try chewing your food longer, especially the corn!"

I’ve never had cheese in a can. Not sure what I would think of it.

Maybe for those who are having trouble getting their minds around this cheese, it would be helpful to consider the can as only a packaging feature, not a processing feature. It is not canned cheese - it is cheese that is sold in a can. There IS a difference!!

If you like a strong flavored, white Vermont or Irish/British cheddar, then you will enjoy this cheese.

^ 😂

This brings up a blast from the past...B&H brown bread in a can. This is on topic since Emmy is tasting CougarGold starting at minute 3.43 so scroll ahead.

HERE

She has such a following just tasting weird foods. (keep waiting for someone to send her Balut.🤢)

We did the same as a family. Choose the meals on our birthdays. Breakfast, lunch and dinner. We usually picked junky things not normally allowed. My sister always wanted the brown bread. Not bad. Wheat and rye flour and corn meal, molasses. Had to look it up. A bit sweet. I recall once picking pop tarts for breakfast, Vienna sausages for lunch, dinner- canned mini ravioli, frozen peas, and mini frozen cinnamon donuts for dessert. 😂. What would Toto think.

I also watched a Ytube video of the facility and how it is made. Impressive.

I make my own cheese so I understand the process.

Velvetta, Kraft singles, even Laughing Cow, are processed cheeses. A melting and heat process.

I find it much more interesting to learn how things work and why. I think enough here answered carolb's question...yes, we have had it and it is excellent. Skeptics can believe as they choose. No biggie. Just unfortunate.

How about mozzarella? It's a melting process too, isn't it?

sleeven, what could be better? Canned cheese, canned bread, and disgusting looking chicken. I've lost my appetite. It's still morning here but I think I can wait until dinner to eat again.

Your persistence in insisting the WSU cheese must be awful - despite all the background information that has been posted here - is becoming inexplicable.

"If you like a strong flavored, white Vermont or Irish/British cheddar, then you will enjoy this cheese."

I haven't tried it but that counts me in, for sure.

^ 🙄🙄🙄

Like our accountant says every year, for twenty years, "you are so stupid for a Harvard guy". We just laugh about it. Dumb-dumb on so many levels. Smart people have issues and blank head space. Dumb brain stuff. Cannot accept straight forward scientific data.

emboth, I was commenting on the video. I accept there are people who like the cheese even though it doesn't appeal to me. Are you interested in the canned bread and the disgusting looking chicken?

Oh man, I remember brown bread in a can. That was pretty good stuff. Warmed with butter or toasted with cream cheese. Sometimes fried to go with a more English breakfast with eggs, sausage, beans, and tomatoes.

Given a chance, I would for sure try some of that cheddar in a can with some brown bread. Cheddar would be a good cheese for that. Maybe I should bake up some brown bread soon :)

And yes, I have had chicken in a can. It's kind of gross, soft, and salty.

The article about the Toto just went on the family text thread. I can hardly wait for the reactions! 😂

Boston Brown Bread -- heavenly! I love molasses, so the stronger the molasses the better, for me. Rye is good too. I looked up Serious Eats recipe and oh my will have to try it. It looks easier than I would have guessed.

The cougar cheese -- don't know that I'll ever try just because I have good sources of cheddars already on this side of the continent. But if/when I'm in Oregon next and come across it, it's in my mind now as something yummy to try.

Whole canned chicken -- well, will pass. Canned chicken breast, maybe. Maybe it's like tuna. Canned tuna and fresh tuna don't even seem like the same beast. I'm not fond of fresh tuna, but probably due to happy childhood associations, I always have a few cans of tuna in my pantry.

I haven't had it or heard of it but I am willing to try any cheese.

Anytime. And in any form.

Grand dog is visiting today so I broke out the stinky cheese. Big dog got about 2 T & little dog got about 1 T. Both dogs went bat sheet crazy over it.

Thinking it will make good catfish stink bait but that will have to wait until spring.

My father gave me the pressure cooker that he and Mom got as a wedding present in the 1940s. He gave me the little cookbook that came with it. It has a recipe for Boston brown bread (which is a cake, in my opinion, despite the name.) Pressure cooked, isn't that interesting? I don't think it was cooked with lids on jars, so it wasn't a storable, home-canned product. I should try to find the cookbook....

I would love to try the Cougar Cheese.

Pressure cooker Dad got fed during college partially on the basis of having a friend who was in the dairy production program at the ag school. His friend would bring him their yogurt experiments to eat. This was at a time when evidently not so many Americans even knew what yogurt is. Certainly Dad did not grow up with it, but he was open-minded and hungry. He said the most memorable yogurt experiment was the one that tasted like cherry even though it had no fruit in it. That was just the flavor the bacteria produced.

That was a fun apocalypse dinner video! I think we had canned whole chicken once in a while when I was a kid; I kind of remember it. But we never would have tried roasting it, we would have used it for chicken soup or chicken and dumplings after removing the bones. I've also had the brown bread in a can before, but not too often. If I recall, it was kind of like gingerbread but without the ginger.

And her reaction to the Cougar Gold was exactly mine. I had no expectation that it would be good, and certainly none that it would be THAT good. But it is!

Like the canned bread, but don't know anything about the chicken.

And then there is canned ham......

We also had canned ham when I was a kid. Small 2 person family without a lot of money. A whole ham or even a half (how it used to be sold) was too much. It was similar to ham lunch meat today and not that bad.

My grandmother used to make ham and pickle sandwiches with canned ham.

Now I KNOW I will be craving one all day.

People enjoy escargot a lot, including me. The only way to enjoy escargot in the US is mostly from cans.

dcarch

I used to love smoked oysters and have only ever known them canned.

I am now officially envious of those who've had that cheese. After watching the video, it seems like a wonderful treat for sure!

I guess since I was addressing Elmer Fudd I should have typed "inexpwicable".

^^^ you silwy wabbit!

When I used to go camping I always brought along one of those canned hams. Mom did buy those canned chickens and I finally opened the one from our emergency storage last year. I was so disappointed. I remember having to pry the chicken out of the can because it was stuffed in there. This chicken was about half the size of the can.

The recipe for the brown bread that I used to have called for placing the batter into cans then the cans into a kettle with water half way up the can. Which would make it a steamed pudding but like many steamed puddings was essentially a cake. Not certain I would use one of the modern cans but the old ones did not have much plastic if any lining the can. A greased bowl would work just as easily.