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Comments (26)Regarding the question about how much space is needed for seating when you have seating on two sides... Each seat needs: 24" of linear space A minimum of 15" of clear knee/leg room (for counter-height seating) If you plan to make this your main eating space, then I strongly recommend 18" otherwise, 15" is fine for the majority of people If you're a tall or long-legged family, then 18" is better The clear knee/leg space is just that - clear/open space - after accounting for cabinets and decorative end panels/decorative doors on the backs or sides of the cabinets. Keep in mind that two seats cannot share the same knee/leg space in a corner So, if you want seating for five with three along the back and two along the side, the OP needs an island at least one of the two dimensions below to accommodate seating - not counting cabinets: Option 1: Width = 24" + 24" + 24" + 15" = 87" (7'3") Depth = 24" + 24" = 48" (4') Option 2: Width = 24" + 24" + 24" = 72" (6') Depth = 24" + 24" + 15" = 63" (5'3") For seating for six (4 along the back) - just add 24" to the width. When you factor in cabinets, decorative doors/end panels, and counter overhangs, the island dimensions may increase - but you always need a minimum of the above. Of course, when designing the island, you would make it a bit wider/deeper to get usable measurements for cabinets. For example: The 21.6" would probably be changed to either 22" or 24" (depending on whether you are having custom cabinets made.) Ditto for the 54.6" --> 55" or 57" In the case of the 6.6" deep cabs, I think they should probably be increased to 12" for usability's sake. With a 15" overhang, do not take the additional space away from the overhang - if you have an 18" overhang, you could take up to 3" from the overhang. Here's with reasonable cabinets: To determine the maximum usable depth for an island...how long is your reach (for wiping down the island or reaching the middle)? Take that measurement and multiply by 2 - since you can walk around the island and reach from all sides. For most people, the maximum depth is around 60" , i.e., a 30" reach. The maximum for you will depend on your height and arm length. I'm 5'10" with long arms and I can reach 42" with only a small amount of "strain" - so the max depth for me would be 84". [That would be a continent, not an island, if the width were comparable!!!] [Edited to......See MoreKitchen Addition Layout Advice/Opinions/Suggestions Please! (Pic)
Comments (19)christamarie, any room you design, you need to work from outside in at the same time you design inside out. The extension you put on your house has to go with the existing look of the house. Right now, I envision an ugly nose stuck in the middle of your current house without other information to go with. The window over the sink is not even centered on the extension as is. The roofline of the extension has to tie in nicely with the extension. This can be quite expensive depending on what you do. If the rooflines are not tied in well, you can conceivably create leak points. If the additions are not done well structurally, they tend to sag and fall apart from the existing house over next several years. You can see this when you look at old houses that had 'suboptimal' additions put on them. First, the esthetics of the extension from the ouside has to look harmonious and well designed with the existing house. This is what makes you look at the house and say 'that house looks ugly' or 'that house looks nice'. People will have a gut response to the exterior of the house immediately. A well-done extension will improve the look of the house. If not well done, it looks like an ugly sore. You also have an opportunity to improve the way the house relates to the natural light coming into the house. I see tiny little windows added to the extension. This is a wasted opportunity IMHO. Ourside corner windows can be used beautifully to add wonderful architectural interest to the house. In your case, you have put a pantry there. Try to get some 3D software and try to envision the exterior of the house first. There will be many iterations as you work the exterior as well as the interior at the same time. This type of design is NOT EASY......See MoreOpinions on our kitchen layout - - in beach cottage
Comments (68)Westsider, Thanks for jumping in here !! Your place sounds great. I sure wish I was on your family list. ;) I also appreciate all of your comments. You have given me a lot to think about. More below to you (and anyone else who wants to comment)... I really appreciate everyone who is helping me with all of these ideas. Our builder said last week "That new layout looks good, sometimes it takes another set of eyes to see something, especially after you look at something for so long". That's what you guys are doing for me ... being my extra set of eyes and helping me think what is important to different groups of people. Good news from the builder ... he said yes to the bumpout behind the lower cabinets over the stairs ! That makes design #05 (a few posts up) officially ok from the builder. 1. have 2 or 3 outside beach showers ... do you mean hot & cold showers or just cold for rinsing sand off from beach ? We have planned 1 cold on the walk over the dunes and 1 hot & cold enclosed shower. 2, 3, 4. do you have some ideas for layout in these areas ? Would love to see what you are thinking. 5. weddings are probably not too frequent 6. Grilling - this is an issue. We will not be able to control if people ignore with portable grill, but rules will not allow a built in grill or homeowner provided grill on the deck. We have plans for the ground floor grilling area to be a fun gathering place though with a tiki bar, picnic tables, pingpong and foosball, horseshoes, in addition to the grills. Two grills is great idea !! Good idea also to plan storage for grill tools and mitts near the grills. 9. Will review to make sure stuff stored on high shelves is rarely used stuff. Looking like some of the high shelves will even be empty. Who knows - once it is unpacked, stuff has a way of filling the available space. LOL !! 10. Lot is 50 x 150 ocean front. With 7 foot setbacks for each side of lot, neighbor houses are 14 feet away from each other. 11. two washers & dryers - yep ! 12. elevators - will ask about property insurance - a neighbor has an automatic gate operator (which cost a lot extra) and had problems with renters messing up his door and lots of service calls, so he eventually disconnected his auto opener. We know now to not spend extra for the auto opener. 13. your property taxes are outrageous !! Luckily, we are on flat rate here ... approx 1% of home value. lakehouse, leaving now to go meet a friend for movie, but will check out your plans later. Looks like you are remodeling kitchen for a lakehouse you already own ? Thanks !! Keep the comments coming on all areas of the home !...See MoreTake 2: New small kitchen layout. Opinions please!
Comments (5)Blfenton, good point about building in extra shelving or storage under the overhang. I will look into it. Technicolor, I am going back and forth on closing up the kitchen entry wall. I am waiting to hear whether a pillar hidden in that wall will be enough support to replace the rest of the wall. If that saves $$, then it will be the way to go. Then I would have space for the appliances too. Sena, good idea about the shallow cabinet. Will try it in the planner. The door swing can be changed but it could clash with the outside door. In the summer we use that door a lot and I can already envision a crash, bang sequence! Somebody had once suggested to take down the entire wall till the shoe closet and replace it with a railing. We liked that idea but it might not be a smart thing to do with regards to heating and cooling zones. Will investigate that angle further.. Thanks for all the suggestions! Please feel free to add more-I am still in the tweaking stage....See MoreMuriel Thompson
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