Kitchen/mudroom addition layout seeking input
Hello GW!
I am hoping some of you will chime in here with some thoughts and ideas. We are planning to do an addition to our 1928 center hall colonial to include a kitchen, powder room and (hopefully) a mudroom. Attached is a picture with a penciled-in addition. The current kitchen will be gutted. It is a 9x14 space with 2 doorways, 3 windows and a wall that can't be moved because it contains the stack and a laundry chute. It is the worst kitchen ever!
I was thinking the space where the fridge and that laundry chute wall are could become the powder room since it is accessible from the hallway
I'm working with an architect but haven't nailed down any kitchen design yet. We are a busy family of 5: mom, dad, 3 tweens/teens. I'm mom and the main cook but I often have a helper.
Here is my wish-list:
-A mud room with cubbies/lockers for 5
-An island with seating for 5 and the ability to squeeze a few more stools in if we can ever entertain again
-A main sink and a prep sink
-Double wall oven
-Gas or induction cooktop TBD
-Walk in pantry or at least a pantry large enough to store food along with small appliances when not in use
-Built in fridge if budget allows
-I have 2 cabinets I'd like to repurpose as upper cabs in the kitchen. They were in our LR and match 2 in the DR and are 61"h by 42"w (see pic) Maybe as a beverage center? This is not a deal breaker though.
The space doesn't need to be a plain old rectangle like the drawing indicates. We are planning for a patio behind the LR, accessible from the kitchen. Any ideas for a layout that would work?
Thank you in advance!
Cabinets:
Picture from top of basement steps looking into horrendous kitchen. Wall where rad is houses the laundry chute and stack, must stay.
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Comments (11)Funny how you feel that the banquette in Option 2 feels squished. That was my reaction to the banquette in Option 1. Here are images of banquettes up against islands (ignore the bad cook top placement in the 1st image): [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Little Rock Interior Designers & Decorators Tobi Fairley Interior Design [Eclectic Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/eclectic-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2104) by Morristown Interior Designers & Decorators Marlene Wangenheim AKBD, CAPS, Allied Member ASID [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Suffolk Kitchen & Bath Designers Amy Birdsong [Mediterranean Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/mediterranean-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2109) by Saint Helena General Contractors Centric General Contractors [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Atlanta Interior Designers & Decorators Insidesign [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Birmingham Interior Designers & Decorators Jane Spencer Designs [Traditional Kitchen[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/traditional-kitchen-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_709~s_2107) by Bellaire Design-Build Firms Hann Builders...See MoreSeeking feedback/approval of overall kitchen/addition layout
Comments (9)Re. septic, we recently had the property surveyed, and have spoken with the town sanitarian, so we know what we have to do in that regard (addition to the side = too close to neighbor's property; we have an acre & most of it is in the back). Great point about "tunnel-like" if the fridge is there, hadn't considered that. Yesterday, I tried to start all over again taking everyone's feedback into consideration. Harder than a Rubic's cube! Am now thinking it makes sense to shorten the addition wall jutting out on the left from 3' to 2' (would definitely need support post/wall somewhere in the middle), put the dining room table a few feet out from the left side picture window (if you look at our current layout, it's really just moving it a few feet fwd, wouldn't feel like it's right in the middle of the living room, and I'm flexible with what the living room furniture would consist of - know I could make that work). That leaves an open run from the left living room area to the addition to adjoin a second table for company, but now the peninsula doesn't work - too close to the table/s. Also, move the desk area to the back right wall side of the addition where I had proposed the dining rooom table, and put a pantry cabinet or closet where the desk proposal is instead (I do like the desk that way more in back of the house). Major problem now is that the kitchen seems to be getting too small again?! Revised kitchen layout proposal??? I'd be happy to keep the sink and range generally where they are now (DW is to left of sink); do want to see into the addition while at the sink - that run of counter could be half wall with support post/wall near middle (but lose upper cabinets unless have thick header with small high cabinets above), or it could be full wall with pass through window-like opening above sink. However if the window is too small it doesn't look right, but the bigger it is, the more upper cabinets are lost; move the fridge anywhere it makes sense; would love an island - a peninsula seems more realistic - main function as a serving buffet with a couple stools on the far side; and although I see the benefits of a prep sink, I've never had one - am willing to do without. I've been working on this for 4 months now; can't believe how hard it is! Thank you, thank you, thank you!...See MoreKitchen layout and 3D drawing - seeking input
Comments (16)I think your plan looks great. I do think a prep sink would make it even better. This would make it easier for someone to prep while others are cleaning. This also gets your oven door down from the DW door so both can be open at the same time. However, this would mess up the symmetry of your windows. If, by chance, you don't really need the storage in those uppers, I would eliminate them or make them narrower and widen the windows. So, really, just thoughts to consider but your plan is nice as is. If you forego the prep sink, I hope your main sink is quite large. It's hard to tell but I'm guessing it's about 30" from the drawing. I think you would benefit by having a 36" sink which would allow for washing up on one side while someone preps on the other side. I wish I could advise you on the fridge/freezer issue. When my two kids were still living at home, we never had bigger than a 33" fridge/freezer, one of those dreaded side-by-sides. It fit enough for us along with the extra freezer in the garage. My DH, at age 60, still eats as much as two teenage boys so we probably had similar food storage needs. But, of course, we all cook different and store different foods so maybe our needs were quite different. What kind of fridge/freezer do you have and how does it work for you? I suggest you use that as your guide. I really like your entire floorplan a lot. It looks like it's going to be a very pleasant home to live in and will work great if you plan on aging-in-place in this home. I like there are is very little space "wasted" to hallways and the light you'll get in your main living spaces without the split bedrooms so common in today's plans. I just wonder if you might prefer having a little more space in the great room by taking a foot or two from the master bedroom like this. You still have plenty of space to walk in front of the bed and just think adding some width in the great room gives you a bit more breathing room there. Just a thought....See MoreVery early-stage - seeking layout input
Comments (5)While waiting for your next post, I'll chime in and say that that is a very decent space for a nice bathroom...and the layout you presented is a real waste of the space you have. There are much better options. For starters, that toilet should be moved...possibly into a corner under one of the dormers with a pony wall on one side of it. Then use that space where the toilet is for a really nice longer vanity, possibly with double sinks. In addition, I'd skip the bathtub and put in a nice shower...possibly along the 7' wall to the left. However, if you are intent on having a tub, consider a freestanding one rather than what you show with the ends enclosed by walls, which will really make the bathroom space unattractive and closed in. Finally, can you clarify where the door is? That will likely modify my comments on where to place things....See More
chestnut3
3 years ago
mama goose_gw zn6OH
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoSince you'll have a detached garage off the back, if you want the French doors between the kitchen and side patio, and an entry on the back wall, then m/l flip the plan I posted. Again, rough idea of spaces:
I adjusted the length and width of the addition to better fit this idea.chestnut3 thanked mama goose_gw zn6OHchestnut3
3 years agomama goose_gw zn6OH
3 years agoTraffic patterns: Yes, traffic from MR would pass through pantry, and anyone needing a quick pit-stop, from the back entry, could go through corner of butler's pantry to PR. Mudroom and pantry space can be adjusted if you need more mudroom storage, and windows added in either space (or both spaces). On both versions I drew a new opening from LR, so while you're already undergoing the stress and mess of remodeling, I'd say go for it.
chestnut3 thanked mama goose_gw zn6OHchestnut3
3 years agoHi Laura, garage is actually going to be top left. Laundry is in the basement. Wish I could move it upstairs but I don’t think I can make that work. Here is a pic of the whole plan. The parking pad is not going to happen (it was on husband’s wish list but I said no way lol!)
My architect didn’t draw a mud room and instead did an EIK. After more thought I decided a mud room would be more useful and was asking here for help and opinions if and how we could make it work before I go back to him with my list of changes. Please feel free to offer suggestions! Thanks
chestnut3
3 years agochestnut3
3 years agolaura_04
3 years agoI like Mama Goose’s first suggestion. I’d also open between LR and stair hall. If you entertain on your patio, I’d have a door between it and kitchen so guests don’t have to walk through MR. Another option for your kitchen is a corner nook w table vs the island.
chestnut3
3 years agoHi ILoveRed. You'll probably love my red roof haha
Here is a pic. The driveway is on the far left next to the sunroom. The lot is quite narrow but pretty deep. The driveway on the right is my neighbors
chestnut3
3 years agomama goose_gw zn6OH
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoYou want French doors to the existing patio, plus a mudroom/entry from the upper left corner, and the lot is deeper than it is wide. Here's another bubble(ish) diagram with the addition rotated 90 degrees--kitchen ap 17' x 14'. Mudroom and walk-in pantry in the back.
BTW, if you end up putting the toilet against the DR wall, make sure you have sound-proofing insulation, or a cabinet on the DR wall, to provide a buffer.chestnut3
3 years agoMuriel Thompson
3 years ago
mama goose_gw zn6OH