Roses and their sports
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sara_ann-z6bok
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoZEPHIRINE DROUHIN Bourbon
And its Sport KATHLEEN HARROP Bourbon
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Cuttings has to be a whole nuther ballgame!
Comments (64)Thank you so much to all of you for enlightening me! I am inclined towards obliviousness when I am in the garden and I'd never really payed attention to the whispers. The overt begging, sure - "I'm thirsty" or "I don't feel well" is impossible for any mother to ignore - but other than admonishing them as "ungrateful brats" I am afraid I've been far too businesslike with them. I don't know what the poor fellow did to tick them off, but Marie Pavie and Comtesse du Cayla have poor Alfred de Dalmas down on the ground and are choking the life out of him! I've asked nicely, but neither of those ladies will tell me... I must assume that it's presumed to be too scandalous for me to bear. It is hoped that once I have Alfred by the throat with his roots in the air he will tell me what vile deed he perpetrated upon those two blameless ladies... the size of his pot will be determined by the forthrightness of his response. But what if he is blameless, as inconceivable as that may be? Perhaps they just didn't consider him studly enough? I have heard them refer to him as "poofy Mousseline"... I may have misinterpreted their tone as admiration for the size and splendor of his blooms, rather than spite or envy. He is still rather small and dainty - not very robust - but that's not his fault, is it? Perhaps I am to blame for seating him between them in the first place, where they can hog all the food, water and sunlight? So I'd best be gentle with him when I relocate him - a rescue, rather than punishment. It is obvious that I need to pay closer attention to my roses' preferences in bedmates, sigh.... Another thing I am now forced to wonder about is... who has the Duchess of Sutherland been cavorting with to have caught such a wicked case of blackspot???...See MoreWhy are my roses converting to their sport parents?
Comments (7)Sports are traditionally less stable genetically than their sport parents (meaning the original form of the rose). It is common to have about a 30% reversion rate, unless you plant something REALLY unstable like Simsalabim. That thing appears to have an extremely high reversion rate. There was one of the Poulsen landscape polys Arena found he couldn't sell. The thing was so genetically unstable, there was no way he could tell customers what color to expect it to be. Walking the rows in the fields, it appeared as if there were a dozen different varieties planted. They were all the SAME rose. It was quite impossible to get ten that matched. Even when you found some which nearly did, the successive blooms were as different as the plants in the field. Who knows why plants sport in the first place, much less why they revert? No, you are NOT "doing anything wrong". It's just the roll of the dice you live with when planting mutations. Kim...See MoreIs this rose a sport of Elle?
Comments (5)newsview, in Photobucket, go into your album that displays the thumbnails of your photos. Under each thumbnail are three boxes. Click in the box marked "HTML Tag", the text will automatically be copied. Then paste that text into the "Message:" box here. You can paste as many of these lines as you can (please be aware that some folks are still on dial-up so not too many) in the "Message:" box (Not the "Optional Link URL"), and your photos will be displayed in the body of your post....See MoreThe pleasure of a sport
Comments (5)I have a bad ass sport story... my Arctic Flame rose, purchased 3 years ago bare root, only one cane survived after planting, started growing well, branched out, put out 5 red, fragrant blooms as expected and then all of a sudden changed! Next blooms were all pink, slightly larger, no fragrance. Then the next ones were the same. Then it went to sleep for winter. Woke up in spring of the next year, put out two new basal breaks, all still pink, the entire bush is a pink bloomer now. Most impressively, this thing does not bloom in flushes like the original HT did. It just keeps blooming non-stop. 3 full seasons later it is still that pink bloomer, so my original rose is so gone. I plan to get cuttings this Fall to root over the winter, see if they take and go from there....See More
BenT (NorCal 9B Sunset 14)
3 years agolast modified: 3 years agoBeautiful pics, Merlena. Does Mme Ernest smell as good as Mme Isaac? I just learned that KH is a sport of ZD.
Peace and Chicago Peace are probably the most common sports, but I still love them and planted them next to each other.
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Ken Wilkinson
3 years agoBelinda's Dream has a great color spot, Belinda's Blush. I like it much better then Belinda's Dream.
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Stephanie, 9b inland SoCal
3 years agoStephanie, 9b inland SoCal
3 years agoI have Marie Daly from Antique Rose Emporium, which is a single bloom that grows 4-6 feet tall. I also have Marie Pavie from Burlington, which is very double and 3 feet tall. Both have an identical and incredible musk fragrance that wafts. Both start with pink buds that open to white. Both are pretty much thornless. I think there are a few other sports out there being sold as MP that aren’t as double or have more pink. First picture is MD and last three are MP.
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