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2021 Wolf Range Updates -- Any idea of timing?

2 years ago

I've seen the announcements that the 2021 Wolf dual-fuel ranges will have improved convection. We are committed to a Wolf 48" and ideally would like the 2021. Any info on when it'll be available?? We should move into our new home in late April, so I think it's cutting it really close unfortunately.

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A Merage

last year

Worth the wait

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mwiecz01
7 months ago
Finally received earlier this week. Ordered last July
Nancy Isikoff
7 months ago
Looks fantastic! There is hope for me yet. I ordered our 36 DF last July also.
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I didn't use the Epsom salts because I chose instead to cut it down to the ground and not look at the ugly foliage any more. I was prepared to lose it and replace it with the same. Happy that I didn't have to. What is different this year than last, that it's had such a healthy year? No idea. I have two questions, was it better not to have applied a second round of compost/alfalfa meal? Should I have pruned some of the center growth when it first started producing so much new growth? It's been a good year for roses here. I have only had foliage problems on one out of eight roses and that was Pope John Paul. I shovel pruned it as soon as I realized it had blackspot. I could have done what I did to Julia Child last year and cut it back to the ground and let it regrow with healthy foliage, but I decided I was unhappy with the rose for other reasons and that was just the last straw. 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Caitlin Hawks
7 months ago
Just got word that our 36" DF has arrived at our dealer. Ordered last August. Seems like maybe the pace is picking up a bit? Knock on wood.
gretchensue
7 months ago
Looks beautiful!
Dana C.
7 months ago
Ordered ours in Jan 22 from Ferguson (Dallas area) and was told October 22. Now we are being told Feb 23. That would be a year and a month.
donfro_danielle
7 months ago
My 48” DF (NG, griddle and charbroiler) was just dela again. Ordered in May 2021, now expected at the distributor in July (it was supposed to be today). i regret ordering Wolf at this point
HU-708113065
7 months ago
We just ordered (June 1) and were told May 2023. I assume that means August 2023. Luckily, our designer bought three induction ranges in anticipated of the supply chain issues and we will be using a temp unit until ours arrives.
opaone
7 months ago
Why are people waiting so long for these ranges? What is the draw? Is there some capability that I'm missing that's better than alternatives? Or is it purely for the name plate?

Wolf were once somewhat well regarded but those days are long past. From a functional/performance stanpoint a Bluestar RNB is a much more capable and reliable range.

What am I missing?
L thomas
7 months ago
Because they want them. Enough is quite enough with your Wolf bashing. I opted for a Wolf range in my kitchen remodel that is nearly done. I wanted a Bluestar, but after using one in a showroom it was a hard pass. Chintzy feeling. Questionable build quality. It’s great that you love your Bluestar, but for christ’s sake, let people love Wolf too.
J
7 months ago
Been using our 48” DF range woth double griddle for 3 months now and it is incredible to use and look at. built like a tank. Use the double griddle almost daily. It’s well seasoned and haven’t removed the seasoning and don’t think iI will.
opaone
7 months ago
last modified: 7 months ago
"Because they want them."

Totally fine. I didn't say otherwise. I simply asked why. (and FWIW, our two prior ranges were Wolf and we initially assumed our new house would have a Wolf but that quickly changed when we bagan researching.)

For instance, from a functionality/performance standpoint the burners lack power and are much more uneven than BS and other ranges. The broiler is weaker.

What makes people pay so much money and wait so long?
L thomas
7 months ago
What makes people pay so much money and wait so long?

Again, for the cheap seats in the back…

Because they want one. Period. Done. The end. Move on.
donfro_danielle
7 months ago
TBH if I knew it was going to be sixty weeks instead of the sixteen weeks I was quoted, I would have made a different choice
User
7 months ago
I am going to order soon, I am aware of and ok with the wait, but curious if anyone is hearing anything about economic issues affecting timelines. ie, I suspect things will ease up a little, if people hold off on purchasing high-ticket items, but I'm not entirely sure what the delay is attributable to (a multitude of things, I'm sure).
HU-708113065
7 months ago
Hey folks (not haters), we just ordered last week and received the following lead times (some good . . . some "trying"). 30" SubZero Refrigerator and 30" Freezer - June 2023; Two Subzero under-counter beverage centers - April 2023; 36" Induction Range - June 2023; 30" Convection Oven - October 2022; 30" Drop Down Microwave - November 2022; 30 Warming Drawer - October 2022; 24" Coffee System - October 2022; and Two 24" Cove Dishwashers - December 2022. Hoping the economic slowdown forecasted (which we are not rooting for) might improve those projected dates, but based on the experiences we had read about on this thread, we are not counting on it and we are prepared to be patient. We figure that one day, the wait will be behind us and any short term inconvenience will be long forgotten. For those also waiting . . . keep positive!
Julie K
7 months ago
Posting this info on the remote chance it helps someone here in the Bay Area or SoCal.

Is anyone interested in our panel ready under-counter fridge/freezer unit (DEU2450CI/LH) or our 36” low profile stainless hood (PW362210) with 600 CFM remote blower (801640)? We ordered our appliances in September 2021 but because of a delay with our kitchen cabinets, our kitchen remodel got pushed to fall 2023.

I spoke to our salesperson and he’s willing to let someone else take delivery of our appliances. You can purchase one or more of these items at the current sales price. The under counter unit is scheduled to arrive in September of this year and our hood/blower is scheduled to arrive in October.

The store is located in Walnut Creek, but they can deliver anywhere in the Bay Area or you can pick-up from their warehouse. Alternatively, he may be able to arrange for delivery from SoCal since that's where they arrive from the factory before they're shipped to NorCal.

I don't have to pay any penalties for canceling these appliances and I won't lose any money for canceling. I'm just posting the offer here in case someone needs/wants their appliances sooner. I have another month or so to cancel.

Please PM me if you're interested, thanks.
J
7 months ago
please, please remember to include make up air in your exhaust hood ventillation system. the wolf gas ranges require super ventillation - not having make up air of some sort will defeat the exhaust ventillation and you will regret it. i used a passive air damper and it works fantastic.
Leonard L.
7 months ago
Ordered Dec 2021. Estimate was Sept 2022 but would try to move up if possible. Then got great update in May 2022 - my allocation moved up to June 24 2022 delivery. June 30 update - sorry, no Wolf for you. Now back to September. Meanwhile, nowhere to cook since rest of kitchen update almost done and got rid of old range.
allysjunk
6 months ago
We ordered our 36” DF in May of 2021 and just had it installed on July 14th. worth the wait, but what a long wait!
gretchensue
6 months ago
Happy you finally have it. Enjoy!
tssull74
6 months ago
took mine all gas range . about 10 weeks? wow can't imagine 1 year of waiting. do like the gas broiler for steaks. and love the steam oven...but it broke a few days ago after a year and half of intense use.
HU-642209474
6 months ago
last modified: 6 months ago
We ordered our 8 burner DF 48“ last August. We received it early May 22’ Early present because it wasn't expected until this August.

keep the faith.
Erika Thornes
5 months ago
Mine was installed yesterday! It was worth the wait!
Kathy Buford
5 months ago
Still waiting.....ordered 48" dual May, 2021. Was told today five weeks. October will be two years since we started the building process. Maybe I'm just unlucky. haha
Geoffrey Roth
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We ordered SZ 36" panel ready refrigerator in July 2021 and are being told now November of 2022. Every month they push it since March.
Leonard L.
4 months ago
retailer Pacific Sales just pushed me back again ordered Dec 2021 and told Spring 2022 then July then pushed to mid Oct just pushed again to a few days before Thanksgiving have been life-long Wolf and SubZero user but this is testing my loyalty
hate2wait
3 months ago
We ordered and paid for a 48” dual fuel wolf range in July 2021. they told us 8 months. after 8 months we were toldit would be August 22, now theyre predicting April 2023. has anyone else had to wait 20 months assuming we get it next april? its our new home waiting to finish before we move in.
HU-686236787
3 months ago
Sad to hear they still havent got their production line caught up! We ordered in January 2022 and were told spring of 2023, then as we checked the time frame was always moving out. As we were replacing a Viking that had set itself on fire, we decided to ditch Wolf. We got a Fisher Paykel that took 5 months and we are quite pleased with it. In the interim we did buy a Wolf toaster oven and it is fantastic- highly recommend!!
Kathy Buford
3 months ago
We ordered ours May, 2021...it's still not here yet. It's suppose to be here in two weeks. We were just at the appliance store. It changes all the time. I'll post here if I ever get it. Good luck to one and all. We're also waiting on a sub-zero ordered at the same time.
Jacque Ensminger
3 months ago
My Wolf 36 inch dual fuel, 30 inch speed oven, 30 inch steam oven were ordered the end of February 2022. I also have 27 inch sub zero drawers coming. They say maybe February of 2023. Ordered from Ferguson in Lenexa. Anyone else having any luck getting their appliances?
hunt597
3 months ago
There is a light at the end of the tunnel. We ordered our large appliance package back in Nov. 2021, sub zero, wolf, cove, miele, electrolux, sharp, avallon & samsung. Everything with the exception of the sub zero columns and samsung french door fridge (laundry room) are in. This includes 2 undercounter sub zero items. I had my doubts, but it is happening, things are trickling in for everyone. I am optimistically hoping the quality has remained with these items.

My fingers are still crossed the sub zero columns come in Feb & March 2023 as promised, as were scheduled to be in the house by Dec. 1.

Good luck to everyone!
Mary Marlow
3 months ago
Hurray, 1 year later. Wolf 30 inch Dual Fuel is here!!! In the year we waited we decided to upgrade. #Quartzite #DrawerMicrowave #WorthTheWait
J Gilliam
3 months ago
Congratulations! That helps me to remain optimistic......
Robin Hayutin
3 months ago
last modified: 3 months ago
We ordered our duel fuel oven/range 1 year ago and it just arrived. I love it so far!
Leonard L.
3 months ago
We ordered Dec 2021, 48' dual fuel, 4 burners and double griddle (along with Sub Zero Pro, beverage center, Cove DW, etc). Wolf range delivery dates pushed back multiple times as noted in prior post.

Latest estimate was Thanksgiving but this week retailer said now scheduled for March 2023 as best case. The store offered us an alternative model, 6 burners but single griddle (not very useful griddle size in my opinion) to be delivered immediately.

If I could start all over I would go back to look at Wolf's competitors more closely (I liked Miele and Viking and La Cornue but didn't seriously consider because we have always been loyal to Wolf). My wife and I didn't want to start all over again or be without an oven for the holidays so took the single griddle. Very disappointed.
AtelierQ
3 months ago
last modified: 3 months ago
We ordered a 36" dual fuel, 4 burner + griddle (DF36450G/S/P) November 2021. Estimated delivery mid-October 2022 but actually arrived a few weeks early. A long wait but worth it. For those of you still waiting, hang in there--you'll be happy in the end. I'm completely smitten. The speed oven came in about 4 months.
J Gilliam
3 months ago
Jeff - We ordered Wolf/Sub Zero appliances in April 2022. It has been complete silence from the retailer with the exception of finally getting the initial delivery estimates after several attempts in August. I am wondering about the experiences of others. Have your retailers updated you on delivery dates. Has your retailer been proactive in trying to expedite the process and keep you informed?
Robin Hayutin
3 months ago
last modified: 3 months ago
No. I regularly called the retailer and they were very nice in providing updates when I contacted them.
blueskysunnyday
3 months ago
I have also had to call my retailer for updates.
Leonard L.
3 months ago
At Pacific Sales, definitely no updates I unless I pressed over and over. I had to call the sales guy 4 times or more for him to finally call me back and grudgingly give me an update. He would say that it is no fun calling people with bad news.
Maria
2 months ago
Ordered February, 2022 and received October, 2022. Just in time for the holidays!!!
Carter Kupneski
2 months ago
HU-642209474,

I love the pics of the 8 burner DF48 in your new kitchen.

Would you mind sharing the details of your countertops and backsplash as well?
gretchensue
2 months ago
Congratulations!! It looks beautiful - Happy Holidays and Happy Cooking!!
Robin Hayutin
2 months ago
Carter, not sure if you were asking me, but the backsplash unfortunately has been discontinued. The counter tops are Taj Majal.
Maria
2 months ago
Thank you Gretchen!!
A A
last month
I ordered a 48 inch range dual fuel with Griddle& grill Sept 2021. Last expected deliver date was Nov. Havent received an updated eta. I see some people in this thread ordered in 2022 and received their range this year. Does anyone know if its taking even longer for certain models ?
L thomas
last month
Dual fuel models are taking far longer than all gas. When I ordered my all gas in Oct 2021, it was in stock and ready to ship.
Leonard L.
last month
True, but even within dual fuel, I was told by my sales guy that Wolf is focusing on producing the most popular confirgurations. I ordered a DF dual griddle Dec 2021. In Nov 2022, I was told delivery was pushed out for fourth time, this time to March 2023. However, the retailer offered me a single wide griddle, which they said Wolf had just produced a bunch of. I was disappointed but took it.

So #AA might want to check with retailer to see if a different configuration is available that might be acceptable to them.

Happy to have mine for the holidays.
A A
last month
@Leonard L. Thank you thats is a good idea. I am going to look into that!
Q
last month
If anyone is looking for a new 60” or 48” Dual Fuel (neither related to me, just desperate Googling hoping to find a 30” Dual Fuel faster than the 12 month lead time):

https://www.ebay.com/itm/204121913030?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=sjydjEEUQiC&sssrc=2349624&ssuid=fziClNvmSyW&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY

https://www.theappliancehub.com/product-page/wolf-48-dual-fuel-range-oven-6-burners-with-griddle

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