Remote Range Hood Blowers: hood brand or generic?
Owen Witesman
2 years ago
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kaseki
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Recommend a hood liner to use with Abbaka remote blower!
Comments (2)We bought a Wolf liner (42" Pro Ventilation Liner) and it works great with the Abbaka. I like that it has a continuous twist knob for the blower so you can turn it up and down as you please without being tied in to specific Lo, Med, High, etc. My only disappointment is that there isn't a grease trap at the back of the liner, so if you do tons of greasy cooking without cleaning the baffles, grease will eventually drain out the back of the removable baffles and onto the ledge they rest on and then . . . drip onto the stove, I guess. Or maybe into the body of the liner? This is reminding me that I should probably go see if the baffles need cleaning! I'm very happy with the Abbaka (bought from Dvorsons--thumbs up for their service) and in-line silencer. We started with a Zephyr Monsoon II, but it was so loud that we couldn't stand it and decided to swallow the cost of replacement. The Abbaka on high (1400 cfm rating) is quieter than the Zephyr on low. Edited to add: be sure to check what's in the Abbaka box. We ordered the 1400 cfm but the box had a 1000 cfm blower in it and was mislabeled. I only realized it when I heard the contractor's guys talking about an adaptor for an 8" duct, which shouldn't have been needed. Despite the fact that we'd had it for a few months, Dvorson's was very helpful in getting in touch with Abbaka and making sure the right blower was shipped right away....See MoreModern-aire hood with Wolf remote blower
Comments (8)The Wolf 1500 nominal CFM blower that I have is sourced from Broan as Joe noted above. As I recall, being an induction motor, it requires two-conductor-plus-ground cable, probably with AWG 14 conductors. (If you are desperate to know this, I can get into my attic to look.) Romex (NM) cable should do unless your municipality has some peculiar requirement otherwise. Even an amateur electrician should have the needed cable on hand. My Wolf hood (made by Independent in those days) uses a rheostat-controlled diac/triac circuit for motor control. (This is probably described somewhere on Wikipedia, as well as in various 1970-ish transistor circuit guides, such as the one by GE.) More sophisticated integrated circuit motor controls exist if one wants to initiate a research hobby to look them up. Note: Semiconductor motor controls operate in a reverse direction from lighting controls. Upon turn-on, the motor is given full power to start up, and then further clockwise rotation of the control reduces motor power. (In the diac/triac circuit, the reduction in power is due to increasing amounts of the electrical cycle being removed from the motor power waveform.) The Wolf blower housing has its own damper that opens when the motor starts. I believe it to be forced open by the air pressure. The hood damper is still useful as one wants to keep wind impinging on the system from leaking into the house, and warm household air from leaking past the hood into attic spaces. If your hood doesn't have a damper, order one from Fantech for your size ducting, along with a couple of duct clamps. I'm not sure that locality of repair is really an important factor in a roof-mounted blower. You or your designated victim will have to get up there and remove parts to get the motor out, and then replace it. If a meteor hits the blower, just plan on replacing the entire assembly. While my unit generally keeps the roof below it clear of snow, or at least self clears the snow, in very cold weather with a humidified house damper freezing is possible. If you have very deep snow, a more commercial style up-blast blower assembly on a suitable pedestal may be a better choice. kas...See Morewolf 48” in blower or remote blower hood vent
Comments (46)We fully agree that homeowners should do extensive research including the use of Houzz and other social forms But that also should in our opinion includes speaking to licensed professionals in the supporting fields for their project And that is exactly what we did And we did meet with licensed Structural Engineers , Hvac, general contractor, Electricians and plumbers etc. Every one of them as well researched from their licensing to customer reviews/feedback Houzx is a great form to use but again you don’t really know the background of the people you’re speaking with and their opinions are worth noting but should be validated There comes a point in our experience and knowledge that we have to bow out because we are not professionals in this field Anybody who takes offense to our bowing out should not ...we know limits and cannot provide more than we already have. Please start another strand for future questions as we will not be commenting on this any further....See MoreUndercabinet hoods with remote blower
Comments (26)I see no reason why multiple ducts can't be used for MUA other than someone wanted to control people via a code requirement. I would suggest, however, that multiple 11 inch ducts would be a bear to deal with unless very short. A big damper controlled hole with short duct length into a heatable basement or mud room could provide MUA with minimal complexity if the architecture allows and the heating is upgraded. I framed out a section of ceiling in my 3 ft wide hallway and put the radiator above and the diffuser below. Essentially a 2 x 2 radiator feeds a bit smaller than 3 x 3 hole. The diffuser pressure loss is tiny. (Look up diffusers at Hart & Cooley.) Don't recall any boot fitting comments and they wouldn't apply to my rig. Gerard Daniel happens to be a source (back when there were fewer of them) of stainless steel screening. I picked a mesh larger than window screen but smaller than mosquitoes for my soffit gaps back in 2009. So dust can get into the attic through it. This is temporary because when I use a real active MUA, outside air will be pulled into a path that will include a 2 x 2 x 4-in caddy using a furnace filter. I have a modest cost industrial anemometer. Too late to rummage for it tonight. I'll try to remember to specify it tomorrow, although I may have already specified it in Hood FAQ I. In addition to the largest Pro Island hood over my two induction units that uses a 10-inch silencer and Wolf 1500 CFM blower, I have a pair of registers under two plenums that are ducted (via an 8-inch silencer) to a long owned, roof-mounted, down-blast NuTone blower. I can't find the paperwork, but I think it is around 600 CFM at zero static pressure. It helps with odors from the wall oven stack, but nothing less than a real eyebrow hood has much hope of true capture if one opens a broiling steak process and the smoke spills into the room. My MUA is intended to operate on minimizing the difference in pressure from outside to kitchen. I have a differential pressure gauge plumbed to each location. The circuit is 20-mA current loop, and needs a processor to control the fan. (This is a servo control process with all of its attendant stability issues.) I have the processor, but it is not yet installed into my DIN rail test configuration. TBD. One or more of the MUA suppliers that @opaone is more familiar with may be using such a configuration. There are likely schemes that do this with air control. When there is only one significant exhaust blower, then a flow measurement in the hood duct may inform the blower motor control. Once fireplaces, oven vents, bathroom vents, and windows open or closed are part of the problem space, then the hood duct measurement may not be completely satisfactory. In big buildings, the MUA blower runs continuously. A short-circuit duct is connected between blower intake and output, restricted with a controlled damper to keep the building pressure just slightly high. This allows all the bathroom vents to operate and external doors to more easily open under inconvenient wind conditions. Any restaurants in such buildings would still need their own ventilation systems. A way to do this without full time blower operation should be feasible. Elaborate HVAC systems are above my pay grade (presently zero)....See MoreOwen Witesman
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