Did you ever look at the roses at Freedom Gardens?... Perennial Blush or Perennial White? Those are repeat blooming Ramblers.

I did! I even emailed him to double check on White Surprise. He confirmed Pink Surprise looks mostly white, especially in hot weather. He has Captain Thomas, which looks a lot like Golden Wings, and a few others I was looking at.

Do you plant in October? I wasn't sure if it's a bit late to get roots established before a freeze.

I've obsessively looked at everything! Lol

I have considered Malvern Hills, although it's not much on fragrance. I've considered planting one to really fill in the space and a second for bees and fragrance so I won't be trying to get one rose to do all the jobs.

I'll go take a picture a bit later, it's really ugly, my ugliest space on the property, which makes me feel like the juxtaposition between a really fancy rose, like the English ones, will look silly next to the driveway, trashy neighbors yard, and faded ugly sided garage. Kind of a lipstick on a pig situation, lol.

Perennial White is another that fits all but one category, it's not fragrant. It's also strangely the one rose I can't find pictures of, other than the one picture of it's flowers on helpmefind.

Thanks, Vapor. I doubt I take better care of my Ghislaine because I mostly leave it alone. It is in a sunny, dry spot but it's one of those roses that know how to tough it out.

Reb, if you get a large growing rose you can screen out your neighbor's eyesores, and then you won't have to worry about it looking incongruous with them. I don't see why a lovely rose wouldn't look ok with a driveway but you are wise to know what look you want.

I'm in zone 7 and I like very much planting in fall although I might not opt to get a plant that has been grown in a greenhouse all its life this close to cold weather.

That's fantastic. With everything else I forgot the fragrance aspect. I think Perennial Blush has fragrance, but it is blush. You might try searching English sites since PB and PW are English bred and not widely available here. In fact, FG is probably the only source left.

Peter's great and has so many choices. His Roses are kept outdoors until the cold so they should be hardened off already. Your soil temperature should be warm enough for them to get established if they go in soon. I'm getting mine Saturday.

Gosh, Moonlight is gorgeous Erasmus. Great to know that with more light I can get additional bloom wit GdF. It's already one tough rose. Really looking forward to getting Purple Skyliner (and Rosy Mantle) for my friend in the Spring.

Pink Surprise (looking white) could really cover an ugly area in a naturalistic graceful way.

Have we talked about Moonlight? It's a hybrid musk, fragrant, repeat blooming double but opens fully for bees. They have it at Angels Gardens. Shipping is as much as the rose itself, and it's not bare root, so I'm not sure it's a wise choice for zone 6 in October though.

Check and see if they have it at long ago roses. Their shipping is extremely reasonable, something we all appreciate.😉🤗 Can you wait till the spring to plant it?

http://www.longagoroses.com/

So, I went to that site, and got so lost in looking up the roses, I eventually forgot what I was actually supposed to be looking for, lol. These sites that don't have pictures for us nubes make it tough!

She does have it!

I can wait, for some reason I thought it was better to plant in fall, can't remember why.

Apparently I can't remember much for long these days!

Lol! I know. She has so many that aren't available elsewhere easily. What other areas are you looking to focus on next year? You can get a head start with the choices and not feel so stressed. These decisions have kept me up at night I'm embarrassed to say!

If you knew how many hours I've spent looking at roses online in the last month!

Besides the rose project, I'm slowly filling in a partially shaded area with woodland natives from seed, that's a long term project, and redoing the north chunk of my front bed that has weird sun. I pulled out a dwarf hydrangea, moved some milkweed that was too big for it, don't know why I put milkweed in the front bed anyway, moved some echinacea. Hauled tons of compost up there, added edging so it doesn't drain as fast.

I've also become the gardener for my mom's old best friend, so I'm kind of redesigning her whole garden too. It's a lot, lol, I'm doing most of it from seed.

I've talked her into getting a rose too, but she decided very easily, unlike me. She picked Bathsheba to fill a strangely placed arbor that no longer has grapes. She liked that better than my first idea which was let me knock it down, lol.

Here's a pic of my front bed on the good sun side.

Not a great pic, I'm low vision and used my cheap android phone. I was mostly trying to get the crocosmia. In my memory it was a better picture!

I've been unable to sign in to Houzz for over six months now....I finally fixed it so I could see the pics on this beautiful thread! So many gorgeous roses!!

I grow a few of the ones talked about here and wanted to post some pics. I've had a 'Darlow's Enigma' for almost twenty years and it is an incredible rose...scented, wafting, healthy, continual bloom, single flowers, the bees love it.

It's not a single rose, but 'Malvern Hills' is one of my absolute favourite roses....it's a reblooming rambler. Someone here noted it wasn't fragrant. Mine is! It's also shade tolerant, blooms in flushes almost all year long, is extremely healthy, and very vigorous.

The shape and size of the flowers is is charming, as is the pale yellow color. It throws out lots of long, flexible canes that are perfect for training or draping over things. It also is not too thorny, which is really nice. I'm not sure if it would be reliably hardy for you though. Vaporvac, did you say you grow it?

RoseLady, welcome back! So happy you were able to get back onto the site. Your Darlow’s Enigma is fabulous!!!!!!!

Vaporvac I got another email from Peter at Freedomgardens, his suggestions for a fence/garage swallowing rose are Long John Silver, Silver Moon, and confirmed Pink Surprise and said White Surprise isn't available in the US, and Poulson's climber Bolero.

I remembered to take a pic of the space this morning.

I'm planting some clover/winter rye as soon as I finish getting those leaves mulched for the compost, which will help aerate the soil a bit and add some nitrogen. Behind that little gate is my compost and lots of trash trees, so roses can pretty much go wherever they want, there's nothing they could cover that I want to see over there!

I found Bolero, a Poulson Courtyard Climber here, finally, it took some searching, and it's listed as bushy, but elsewhere I found that the Courtyard series are all climbers. http://www.poulsenroser.com/assortment/rose-collections/courtyard/bolero.aspx

Thank you Stephanie!!

Reb, if Peter says it will cover then I'm sure it will as he grows everything he recommends, in general. Does he carry Bolero and Silver Moon? LJS is a hardy classic.

Rosylady, I've missed you! Your garden must have been fantastic this year! I am helping a friend sort out his new rose garden and ordered Malvern Hills for him. Unfortunately, he's not much of a gardener and sent me a pic of it swimming in water and asked if that was OK!!! To make matters worse, it wasn't grafted, but OR and he had totally buried it as one would do when planting a BR. Needless to say it died by drowning. He's now making French Drains of a sort and that has helped solved the problem of compacted clay soil and heavy rain. His roses far surpass mine if only he'd weed. DA is sending a replacement in the Spring.

He does carry them. I've finally decided on Pink Surprise and Bolero.

There's a third option, that I might put somewhere else because it looks so good, Guirlande D’Amour. It hits pretty much all my criteria and is shade tolerant, so I might plant it on that little chunk in front of the garage and let it go nuts over there in the dappled shade.

I have G d' Amour too and you will love it too. Pink Surprise is lush, G d'Amour flops gracefully and is a horizontal version of Darlow's Enigma which is more upright. My Long John Silver is great but not really a lush enough plant here to screen anything.

Wow, you have a lot of roses!

Gee, I ordered Gd'Amour for. My friend's garden also. What a small world. It's new and small, but doing well. Is Gd'A also from FGs? I didn't know h had that either!

No, it's at High Country Roses. And apparently he does not have Bolero, he was recommending it as a custom propagation, takes a minimum of 2 years. His shipping to KS is even more than the other places. I might just get Gd'A and be done with it for now.

I thought he had flat rate shipping three roses for $20. Yes that is from where where I got my GDA ...HCR.

It's $25 now. Angel Gardens was $20, HCR is $10.95, and since it's a 5" pot and not a nice big bare root, the plant itself is also less expensive. I wanted to order from Peter, but I'm poor, lol, so HCR it is. Hopefully they'll have it in spring.

vaporvac....thanks! It's good to be able to make comments again. I have a perfect image in my mind of your friend's Malvern Hills covered in water :). I have mine planted in a very dry spot and it's thriving. Mine is a grafted plant from DA. My rose garden is doing very well! It's been a little neglected this year because we've been finishing a project (grass tennis court), but even with the lack of deadheading it has been beautiful. I will make a post with pictures soon!

Update: Malvern Hills last summer...

• That is amazing, but Im freaking out a bit because I was just rereading this post and when I clicked off you had posted. Both our ears were burning! What a beauty. Mine are just gearing up. I finally tied the climbers to my metal front fence and they all had exploded both in bud and cane length!!! Purple Skyliner, Cornelia, Felicia and Mels Heritage are going to be huge.. MHEritage is alreadyy 12 feet at least. I now expect great things from MHills. Just glorious! Ill report on my friends that was replaced lasr year when it blooms. My first blooms were 4/14 last year so we're a bit behind.

I'm so glad all your climbers are doing well Vapovac!

I never picked one! I've kind of temporarily given up on that area, I bit off more than I possibly do at once, lol. I have made great progress on my very unruly backyard, and I did order Lyda rose for a dappled shade area by the other side of the fence. I also ordered Perle d'Or to use as a container rose on my deck where I sit. My years of exotic tropical hibiscus obsession has left me lacking in scented flowers. I read it's very strongly scented, I can't wait to smell it!

We had a very mild winter and my Westerland is doing better than it ever has. A few winters, or maybe 2, we had almost 2 weeks of minus 20 and it died completely, last year it started rebounding.

Which makes me wonder about the garage swallowing ramblers, if you have a structure covered in canes, and you get severe die back, it must not look very good? I couldn't really get up there to prune it if it did manage to take over the garage roof.

Maybe it's smart to pick something hardy to a zone lower?

Good thinking, Reb.

Are you still thinking of this project. Just go for it! Guilande dAmour has turned out to be a great rebloomer and wonderful healthy rose no-spray! You could mix her with Ghislaine de Feligonde for additional colour and charm! Ill post a pic of GdA on my friends fence. It will definitely get large, but isnt a total monster as is her neighbor Peggy Martin.

I never got this one done, but I think I'm going with a hybrid musk that will fill out the space instead of just a climber on the fence, I'll just hide the whole ugly fence!

I'm glad I waited and didn't rush into a climber that probably wouldn't have been quite enough. It's a big fence.

You could do it with the hybrid musk Ballerina. It might take three or so, but mine is carefree and a constant bloomer. My Ballerina is grafted and 18 years old. It never gets out of control and requires just a little pruning. Diane

Perle d’Or has a great honey fragrance! One spray in the room will really be noticed too. Fragrance only lasts two days once cut though.

I got Perle d'Or this spring. I just planted it today. It does smell great, but so far not much wafting. Maybe next year.

I planted Perle dOr at my friends house and it always in bloom. For some reason, I never think to smell it!

Oh man, you really should! It's hard to describe the scent, it's sweet, and rosy, but also, almost perfume-y, but in a really good way.

I just stuck in my part shade border to mingle with other random things. I like the way it's little flowers stick out in lots of directions, I think it will be a good mingler.

It Is a VERY charming rose that loses its petals cleanly with just a flick of the wrist, a great attribute as its always covered in blooms at various stages.

My friend accused it of being 'bridal'. I do like it when it holds its peachy color on cooler days.

A wildling such as r.helenae or wichurana or alba semi-plena or hugonis will offer heps in autumn which is always a plus. Frances E Lester has been on my radar this year.Generally healthy too. I often get the US climate a bit wrong though. I have a Darlows Enigma which is always a joy. I have a lot of other ramblers too, but after 25 years, I am not always enamoured of the mad growth (although I once misread a label for 6 feet when it was 6 metres!). The most insane fence coverer I know would be one of the Ayreshire roses such as Splendens. Not sure how available it might be in the US but blimey - these roses can cover a house in a fortnight.

This is a spot with many demands, part shade, nearly thornless because my son plays basketball right by it, and I need to be careful not to plant something that will take down this fence eventually, lol.

Also, Z6 in KS is heat zone 8, I've had some trouble with other perennials, particularly ones I saw on Gardener's World and ordered seeds for from Jelitto, being hardy in my cold zone, but not being able to handle our extreme summer heat.

ooops, just noticed the 'continual bloom' request, (amongst other things) Carried away (slaps wrist).

If you follow Paul Barden on Instagram, he occasionally offers his roses for sale when he has extras.

Reb, I would love to follow Paul Barden. What is his Instagram handle? There seems to be a few Paul Bardens on there and I am not seeing his.

https://www.instagram.com/crown_of_frogs/?hl=en

I would second Vapor's suggestion of Guirlande d'Amour, as mine is the size of a Volkswagon and nearly continuous bloom in part sun with zero fussing. It's also self supporting and fountains out in every direction to cover up an eyesore, and the form is loose with tons of blooming clusters.

The thorns are there if GdA but not as troublesome as the lovely Darlow's Enigma. That's a rose I don't even approach to try to prune as it has the nasty small thorns everywhere that catch on skin and clothes viciously and don't let go. I'll have to try Ballerina in that area - it would fit nicely with my other hybrid musks. Great photo Diane!

Cynthia

A VW bus or a VW bug?

Friends GDA second flush. This is in its creep year! Then the picture of it next to Peggy martin. Peggy also has pretty good rebloom which I'm shocked about but I think she needs some hard pruning and deadheading with the shears to achieve that. We did that to GDA but more for looks. I'm sure it helped with three bloom. She's setting new buds now for another showing.

Wow, those pics are fantastic!

I pretty much want all the roses now. I keep realizing they are the perfect solution for every new spot in my garden that isn't sparking joy.

I almost got an abelia for a particular spot in part sun, now I'm thinking I'd be crazy not to use Rosarie de L'Hay. Then I think, could I fit a climber next to on the fence? Could I stick another hybrid musk over here in this bare spot?

I think I need 37 roses now!