Kitchen Remodel- floor plan help

2 years ago

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Hi everyone! We have an offer on a new (old) house and want to remodel the whole kitchen/breakfast nook area (before we move in!). I really want an island, but am worried this area is too narrow. We are open to taking space from the powder room because it seems oversized for a powder room. We are closing off that door to the dining room to make a pantry and the dining room will be my new office.

Thoughts???

Edited to add: Also, we are remodeling before we move in. We have 3 young kids and grandparents and remodeling the entire home.

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mama goose_gw zn6OH

2 years ago

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Reading whole-house remodel before you move in, I went a little crazy. I bumped out the kitchen to the sunroom/DR and sitting room (assume bottom right part of house is grandparents' domain), and extended the deck. I had the butler's pantry arranged before I read that you are moving the DR, so that could become a mudroom.

I added French doors to the sitting room, if grandparents want more of a connection to the kitchen and family, and added a closet in the entry, but if the grandparents want a private door to laundry, that door can stay:

Not being on a grid, the plan isn't exactly to scale--you'll have more space than what it shows (ap 22.5 x 22.5?), so I included measurements of aisles. The island seating won't actually overlap the fridge.

ETA, if you want the fridge closer to the new DR and living areas, the whole kitchen can be flipped, but new French doors to sunroom/DR would have to be omitted. You could do a pass-through from kitchen to DR, to the right of the fridge.

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megs1030
2 years ago
I would live in the house for a while and really get a feel for the kitchen and how it functions before making any changes to it. Kitchen remodels are costly. Since you're purchasing a new house (Congratulations!), I would wait to see if any other hidden costs pop up before tackling such a huge project.

But to answer your question, I don't think an island will fit in your kitchen.
Jess M
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2 years ago
We are going to remodel the entire house before we move in. We have 3 young kids and grandparents that live with us and it would be a pain to live through a remodel.
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I'm having a hard time seeing all the details in the pic because it's too small. Is it possible you could post a larger picture? I think you'd get more responses. Plus provide some details about what you want from the space. Do you need/want seating/eating space in the kitchen? Kids? How many cooks? From what I can see, you don't have anything on that run of cabinets on the bottom. I can't see that area serving any purpose. You certainly won't use it for working or preping. I'd be inclined to get rid of that run of cabinets entirely and use that space to make the island larger. Then I'd add a prep sink to the end of the island by the fridge. BTW, when you start a new thread, it remains at the top of the board until you start getting responses. When you responded to your own post, your thread started dropping down the board. Try posting larger pictures so people can see the details and provide more information all in one post. I think that would help a lot. :)
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Thanks. We do spend a lot of time in the family room. That was my first thought actually of opening that wall. The initial problem with that wall between the family room and the kitchen is that it is a load bearing wall. The living room we use as more of a formal sitting room if we have friends over. My wife also has her desk there. My wife has also thought about making the living room the dining room. Personally I think that is a waste of space but am open to being convinced otherwise. My wife and I would like to have more of an open floor plan. Thus thinking of combining the kitchen and dining room into one room. We eat 99% of our meals at the dining room table, so the table would have to fit into the larger kitchen design concept. I would like to incorporate kitchen and eating together. To me the difficult part is all the doors in the kitchen... the sliding doors to outside, the family room door, hall door and basement door.
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Jess M
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2 years ago
We are not living through a remodel, thanks! All cabinets, counters and everything will be new so it will be exceed 60k.
kempek01
2 years ago
A few things:

No need to steal space from the powder room. You wouldn't gain enough to be worth the expense. It looks like you would have to relocate plumbing to make it significantly smaller (and then it wouldn't be that much smaller).

You don't have room for an island. It's already tight between the peninsula and the cabinets on the wall. In your mind, make the peninsula an island by adding a walkway on the other side. See how much "island" you have left. You wouldn't have much of an island; it would be more of a sand bar.

Update your lighting!

Since the dining room will become your new office. it is a good idea to put the pantry there. I would think about taking the door down, but not filling in the opening. Put a bookcase in front of it in your office, and a cabinet in the new pantry. Then when it is time to sell, you can just take the cabinet and bookcase out and put the door back up. Or this might be a time for a barn door in the office (it just never opens)???? Still thinking about that one myself......
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2 years ago
I am with the others as to living in a space before a remodel. Have you done this before ? Sometimes if I have a clinet I have worked with before I can know what they need and can help with a pre move in reno

What is the indent in the garage between the laundry and the ensuite ? IMO removing the PR and changing its position would be my suggestion that way the kitchen could be reworked to allow a much better layout and probably even an island. Right now no island will fit. IMO a smaller office would also allow a better kitchen. BTW you need designer ASAP and a akitchen designer not a cabinet sales person but an independant KD. IMO you need the DR for 7 people all the time and additional guests . I never like FR and LR open to each other IMO it defeats the whole point of the 2 spaces. I assume that main floor bedroom is for the grandparents. This will definately need more than 60K
Jess M
Original Author
2 years ago
Hi Patricia- we are 1000% not going to live through the remodel. The remodel is going to take 6+ months. We are doing the entire house- floors, bathrooms, everything. We are interviewing designers and architects and I wanted to bring some thoughts to the table once we decide on who to hire.

Changing the layout of the PR is along the lines of what I was thinking. We are open to a smaller office. We are going to put the DR in the current sunroom. I don't really like the FR and LR open to each other either and in some models in the same neighborhood I've seen them use the FR as the DR and the LV as the FR. The main floor area will be for the grandparents.

Thanks for your thoughts!
Jess M
Original Author
2 years ago
Mama Goose- You are the bomb!!! I love this!!! LOVE LOVE THIS. Similar to what I was thinking, but even better! Thanks so much! I will def share this with the designer that we choose.
Jess M
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2 years ago
I literally can't get over how much I love it hahahah @mama goose_gw zn6OH

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