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Comments (3)Isphahan takes to pruning quite well, however. When ours was just a baby, my DH dropped a red cedar on it. Every cane the poor thing had broke off at about 6 inches. Since it recovered from that with a lot more canes, I just kept pruning it. I stopped after the neighbor's dog almost dug it up in pursuit of small rodents because it was almost killed by that. Looking at it today, it seems the pruning regime should come back. It looked a lot better before....See MoreCharles de Mills rose
Comments (66)Marlorena, I agree. As I mentioned in my first post, getting a budded CdM and planting it with the bud union above the mulch line would avoid all this. The UK simply doesn't get as cold as it does where gardeners are advised to plant the bud union below the mulch line, which would set Chuck free. Elsewhere, Gallicas are popular in areas with Winters too cold for many other roses, and that's where running problems can occur if the bud union gets enough soil contact for the rose to go own-root. I suppose one could cover them for Winter, then uncover after the last hard freezes in Spring, as a compromise. I kept mentioning its potential spread as a warning to make sure to leave the bud union uncovered since Darren is kinda new to old roses. Paul, I remember you mentioning the expanse of your CdM before, and it brought that picture to my brain. It's why any own-root Gallicas at the cemetery will be in island beds around high-limbed trees, surrounded by turf and/or paved paths. I'm looking to try budding as well for roses notoriously difficult to root, but I'm afraid that it may get too cold here to leave the bud unions above the soil line through Winters, so I won't rely upon that to make any Gallicas "safe" enough for mixed beds. 'Charles de Mills' may just have to be planted in a trench dug between wild shrubbery/trees and grass in the background. There are quite a few spots like that there. :-) ~Christopher...See MoreCharles de Mills vs Tuscany Superb?
Comments (4)You have a great collection of Paul Barden roses, Sheila. Dianella, I think TS is more fragrant than Charles de Mills but ChdM has a nice fragrance. Both sucker here though ChdM is not as bad here as some places. ChdM has bigger blooms. TS is a deeper color. A long time ago a lady in TX used to post about her Gallicas ...it was interesting to see they did well in a hot climate. Her name is Melba. In my zone 7a NC climate most Gallicas do well and bloom well but I have one, Duchesse de Buccleugh, that will not bloom if the winter is mild. Charles de Mills Tuscany Superb Neither one is bs free here but not bad. My tallest Gallica is The Shell Rose. It's 5' or 6' tall, arching. Has narrow canes and little pompon blooms. I planted a second ChdM plant in a very tough location in a very gravelly spot that's hot and dry and it is doing pretty well. Gets morning sun and the leaves stay healthier on that one than my plant in more shade. I think a number of once bloomers are pretty tough....See MoreWrite a 500 word essay on the rose Charles de Mills
Comments (37)One thing I find scary about AI is the concept of the self-reinforcing loop. What I mean is, those computer-generated "CdM" images and those bland essays are now online next to the name "Charles de Mills". The next time the AI bot scans the web, this page will be fed into its training data. The next time someone asks about CdM, the bot might regurgitate this page (with a few words thesaurus-ized) as fact! So the truth can get ever more obscured. A co-worker who was present for the early days of PC use in the engineering trades shared this pithy saying about over-reliance on computer programs and reports: "Garbage in, gospel out." The results of a computer analysis can only be as good as the data that is fed in. And that is *if* the program itself does everything right. There are many ways for such things to go wrong. I think it's shameful for students to use these tools, as it will cripple their education. The first encounter with real world problems will expose how little they have learned. On top of those concerns, you have the possibility of deliberate misinformation. This has already come up a little bit with the prevalence of centralized search and social media sites like Google, Facebook, Twitter, etc. But consider how repressive states could use these tools to spread false narratives, either through direct control or subversion of facts. The old saying, "Believe half of what you see, and none of what you hear" is getting ever more true....See Morejerijen
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