Cluelessly Wanting to Build/Design A New House to Feel Old
Morgan B
3 years ago
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Bruce in Northern Virginia
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Anyone building a 'new old home?'
Comments (55)you all have such pretty houses! we are trying to build a new old home--a Georgian revival. most details are as authentic as possible, though we did simulated divided lite windows with spacer bar instead of real divided light windows, our kitchen is in a central-ish part of the house, which is not at all authentic to a real Georgian house, we utilized most of the proportions and ratios to adhere to the golden ratio, and i've chosen hardware that is all reproduction in living finishes. our keeping room is meant to look like an addition to the house. we intended to do a wall of exposed brick so it looked like it was "tacked on" to the house, but the architect forgot to spec that in the plans and the floor wasn't built to accommodate it. instead, we are doing knotty pine paneling and reclaimed lumber beams in that room. i'm hoping with all my might that our house looks believably historic in the end. the biggest battle now is the soffits, which look very prefab and contemporary. our brick looks like it came from the revolutionary war, which is exactly what i wanted. our mortar looks old, and the limestone sills are all really believable. i love trying to make this house look historic and think it will give it a unique feel once it's done....See MoreFrom old home to new - or new to old? What does it feel like?
Comments (30)I love old houses - the quality, the history (I was THRILLED when I saw the names of the owners of our then under 5 year old house on the 1930 census), and the style. If I don't win the lottery, I will never live in another "new" build (80's and up) because the vast majority of non custom built homes are just not up to my standards. Of the 4 new builds I lived in in my life, only two were decent. The last decent one had been built by a guy who had previously done commercial building. It was built to last and I have no doubt that one would still stand after a tornado. Because of the commercial background, the finish "prettyness" wasn't there, but those details were added later, by us. The last new build was a nightmare. The "quality" semi custom build was so lacking that I can't even imagine how much worse some of the mass produced really poor quality houses will last. Within the first 5 years the deck was partially rotting (no flashing between the house and it), the roof leaked at the chimney, many of the windows wouldn't work well and/or leaked at the top, lots of the trim wood was rotting out and the floors of both 1st and 2nd floor creaked in almost every spot as did the entire staircase. And then of course you had the "minor" issues like one couldn't use a hairdryer in the master bath before resetting the outlet in the upstairs bath if someone had used a hairdryer in it before the master bath. And the defective shingles requiring a complete reroof at 3 years is hard to forget. My brother has a friend who last year moved into a house in one of those new mass built neighbourhoods in South Carolina. Brand new. 6 months after moving in, a water pipe junction burst (iirc, they thought it hadn't been correctly connected or something) in the attic while they were on vacation and ruined most of the house and their items. The builder denied responsibility and the insurance company was blaming it on the builder since the house was still under "warranty" and it was turning into a huge mess, to say the least. New does not equal free of work and I'd rather strip wallpaper than deal with finding out what corners were cut....See MoreSharing - new home design / building process
Comments (34)Update - using the helpful sign advice on the Kitchens forum - we made some changes to the layout. Ultimately - that resulted in the "eating end" of the island moving to the east / by the fridge, and changing some zones around. As part of that continuing discussion, DH and I decided to swap the great room and the dining room for the following reasons: We can bias the dining table back further and integrate it easier with the kitchen (less steps) We can move the great room to have better views of the courtyard and feel more "snuggled" into the main part of the house. It will also be the place we spend a decent amount of time, closer to the half bath area, closer to screened porch, outside, etc. Moving the dining room closer to the entry allows us to "create" an entry space with either screening furniture or some other "barrier" that won't dump you right into the great room (a room that will be more crowded with furniture and likely to be "less neat" than the dining room) So - thanks for the ideas, we've already incorporated others, and with the kitchen changes, I think we're getting very close to the most livable plan for us. I'll have the plans updated and then we can get our head around the changes and make sure we're not breaking something else by fixing these other issues. Hopefully, crane will be scheduled for 2 weeks from now and we'll have walls in 2 weeks after that!...See More"New Old House" Design
Comments (12)You will be well served to engage a builder early in the design process to help you balance design vs. cost to build. We actually had the builder first, and he recommended the architect. He works with a number of them in the area, and suggested the one he felt would be most interested in this project. I may have (in my anxiety) fussed a bit to him about this project being less "high end" than others he's done. To which he responded, "I have no trouble at all with your budget. There is ALWAYS a budget. Since the Van Andels and DeVos's have yet to ask me to build a house... EVERYBODY is working with a budget." (I might have 10% of that budget held back that he doesn't really know about, in case I find things I really feel we need to do. Or rather, I didn't give him my absolute max as my budget, because I don't want to push it that far. But that's between you, me, and the fencepost!) I think you hit on one main point- matching the style of other vintage homes in the area. An authentic Cape Cod home that looks great in New England looks odd in Key West. No matter how carefully crafted, a home that isn't 'native' to your area always looks jarring to me. Yes, we'd been keeping that in mind. I've actually delved into the local architectural history. The only really unique, local form is a specific style of polychrome brick farmhouse that would be cost prohibitive to recreate. But I'm thinking about a small accent area INSIDE the house in a similar style of brick that makes it look like the original house was one of the Veneklasen homes - since added on to and sided over. Not sure if that's a great idea or not, but I might throw it out when we meet with the architect and see what HE thinks....See MoreMorgan B
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