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What Knot to Do - How to Balance and Update w/ Knotty Pine EVERYWHERE!

Angela W
3 years ago




We are about to extensively update a 1970s ski cabin fixer. I'd like to keep the ceiling's knotty pine, but need to get rid of some of it - it's everywhere! Would love your design ideas to make this an updated "rustic modern" living space. (PS the emerald green carpet throughout is going away. We're thinking of European oak 7 1/2' planks in the living space...also the fireplace will become gas and have a new surround - ideas welcome for this too - want to put a tv over the fireplace so probably need a concrete mantle, and I'd also like a hearth to sit at it)


There's wall of windows 22' high. I'm thinking about updating the trim around these windows with something very dark stained for some contrast, then using the same dark stain for the ceiling and beams in the kitchen across from this window wall. It's also been recommended to drywall over the walls until the trim at the ceiling, and introduce a lightly painted room (perhaps a warm white or greige). Also, how do we improve the existing pine? Currently there're smoke stains from the fireplace on it, as well as water stains from a roof leak (has since been re-roofed). Do you have it sanded and then restained? I think we'd like it more matte than glossy.


Would love to be inspired by your feedback. Thank you!

Comments (50)

  • calidesign
    3 years ago

    I'd keep the ceiling and trim wood, but paint all the walls a warm white. Whether that means paint or wallboard should be decided on with your painter. Especially since you want wood floors, you need the white walls to break up all the wood. I would leave the trim and ceiling the color it is, but use a lighter, almost natural finish for the floors.

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  • felizlady
    3 years ago

    I’m not sure that replacing the carpet with an additional type of wood (flooring) will give you the kind of change you want.
    Your wood furniture is the same color as the pine, too. Even if you bring in large area rugs to help cover the floor, you will still have wood overload. I would consider painting the walls a nice warm white but leaving the ceiling and window trim in the pine. That will reduce the amount of natural/stained wood. Add some light-colored furniture pieces on the deck, and replace the deep green carpet with a green which you see outside...a softer lighter pine green or sage green. If the flooring under the carpet is in good condition, large area rugs may help.

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  • Jean
    3 years ago

    Agree with both felizlady and calidesign, warm white on the walls would greatly help, plus your furniture adds to the wood overload since it is the same color as the current walls and ceiling.

    Mockups for you

    Warm white walls, also I grey washed the fireplace stone to lighten it up a bit.

    Dark stain on the window trim.

    Grey carpet/floor color

    Hope that helps!

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  • ShadyWillowFarm
    3 years ago

    I am pretty sure I love your fireplace and would not change a thing about it. Can you get another picture? And what a fantastic place!!! I would emphasize the rustic charm by whitewashing the walls, and consider installing a high-end stone or slate look vinyl tile on the floor. Or if you don’t care for that, the wood floors sound nice. Keep the ceiling and trim the same. Will you be renting this out, or keeping it for your own use? If it’s a ski rental, you need an easy care floor that stands up to snow and gear. Love the windows!!!

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  • RedRyder
    3 years ago

    Good suggestions to paint the walls white, remove the carpet and think about how to change/cover some of your “matching ” wood furniture (such as a table cloth on your table). Light wood flooring might off-set the medium color of the ceiling and window trim.

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  • Angela W
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    All great suggestions - thank you! I love seeing the lighter walls and the flooring suggestions. The furniture came with the house and once we take the space to demo for the updates, we will be donating it or repurposing to another area of the house. Will have the opportunity to select pieces that complement the wood vs duplicate it everywhere! If there're more suggestions, keep 'em coming. I will post a photo once we complete the facelift.

  • suezbell
    3 years ago

    Absolutely beautiful. Embrace and enjoy it.

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  • Claire Miller
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    Im not opposed to painting the wood - I have a cabin with several all wood rooms - in the attic I painted the floor, in the living room I painted the walls white - I have a covered porch outside that makes that south facing room a cave, and I added vintage paneling to the kitchen but painted my unfitted cabinets.

    In your situation, with all the light - I’d try this... Play with the wood first because you can enjoy one look for a while and change it later.

    The wood painted is pretty, I wouldnt drywall. I used an oil based primer. For water damage, I plan to try a light sanding and wax-free shellac.


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  • btydrvn
    3 years ago

    Since this is not really a “cabin”...i think modernizing the fireplace would work ...but...if you intend to do a MOUNTAIN SKI CABIN decor..the fireplace would be more authentic as is... perhaps just painting the stone white would remove the “old drab” feel of the natural stone...more upholstered furniture and soft comfy seating groups ...plush rugs...ottomans ...are also appealing in this kind of setting

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  • btydrvn
    3 years ago

    For hearth seating ...overtuffed upholstered swivel chairs are good as you can put your feet up in front of the fire ...for a cozy read....or swivel away for group activity interaction...built-in dining seating ...upholstered cushions and pillows is cozy and versatile for all meals and games-and cards in the evenings...and smaller furniture groupings work better if you are just two..or have lots of friends who may not all want to sit together on a big sectional...

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  • RedRyder
    3 years ago

    I wouldn’t do built in banquette seating if mostly adults will be eating there. I find them uncomfortable and confining.
    Glad to hear you’re getting new furniture. The vinyl flooring sounds right if this is a ski house. And painting the wood is a faster, easier solution for now.

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  • Sandy Bank
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    I have done many many renovations on places where materials were a little bit of an eyesore because of over use or a little bit on the hard on the eyes scenario. What I think you need to do is put things into perspective the pine makes up for most of the house so you need to find ways to use less of that colour tone when it comes to fur and kitchen. Light greys on kitchen cabinets with a different tone bench top thinking of ways to soften and add more range to The colour palette and feel of the place. In your case I would first get rid of that green carpet you could also have floorboards in a colour that is completely different to the walls and ceiling and then have many large rugs that will complement the pine. I would take all that timber furniture out that has the same tones that match the pine and go for fabric pieces to soften the look, better lighting nice brighter curtains/window coverings. Update the kitchen I think it will automatically complement and soften all the pine work, did I already mention that green carpet is doing no justice to the pine on the ceiling and walls lol


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  • pds290
    3 years ago

    I inherited much the same, (but with ugly asbestos vinyl floor tiles instead of green carpeting). I decided to whitewash the walls, keep the ceiling wood, and put in a wood floor. I love it - so much brighter than it was before! Good luck with your lovely home!

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  • btydrvn
    3 years ago

    It looks like the ceilings in the kitchen are dark ...and the ceiling is low...this i would definitely paint white ...if you like white ..cabinets and island can also be white or a cool color like a pale sage green....of course new simpler counters are needed...i would hesitate to paint any of the knotty pine walls until you have done everything else..as it probably adds a nice warm feeling of continuity....in cold wintery weather ...the reason i like built- in dining ....in cases like yours it gives you the opportunity to save valuable floor space when you dont have float a big table and chairs as well as it is casual .....if you don’t have a big heavy table and don’t make it too long...it is cozy and you can easily add another table for bigger groups and occasions

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  • Kicksychick
    3 years ago

    http://www.sarahrichardsondesign.com/get-inspired/makeovers Check out Sarah Richardson's Contemporary Chalet makeover. It reminds me of your space - lots of wood but tons of charm and potential.

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  • ShadyWillowFarm
    3 years ago

    Please don not put fake wood vinyl tile on the floors - it will not look good with the beautiful wood ceilings. When you have real wood in a room, it’s hard to get away with fake wood.

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  • calidesign
    3 years ago

    You can use tile or a flooring product that looks like stone if you decide not to put in real hardwood.

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  • Angela W
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Thanks for the added feedback! I understand the suggestion to put in functional waterproof flooring given the snowy area, but do agree with ShadyWillowFarm regarding the conflict btw the real wood above and fake floors below. This area I think we will do a light, natural wood floor to compliment the upper ceiling wood (as suggested), and go in with rugs and furniture that is NOT wood! I'm thinking natural color wood, a soft but not yellow white, and some light accents of darker brown and black through the area. Our entryway is separate, will be tile/stone w/radiant heat in that hall, and everyone removes their shoes there! We'll give them slippers/socks and they can pad around on our real wood floors in the main area without as much worry about how the moisture and the wood floors play together :-)

  • ShadyWillowFarm
    3 years ago

    It’s going to be stunning!!

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  • RedRyder
    3 years ago

    Real wood is always the best choice.

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  • Ellen S
    3 years ago

    Unless I missed it, I don’t think we have discussed the kitchen. Will you be replacing or painting the cabinets and island and replacing the island countertop?


    I like the idea of some upholstered furniture. Some leather and metal elements would be good to have in the mix, as well.

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  • Jeanne S
    3 years ago

    A light-colored tile floor would brighten the rooms and highlight the wood. Lovely house!

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  • Jeanne S
    3 years ago

    PS I would keep the beautiful wood table.

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    Patricia Colwell Consulting
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    IMO get slate for the floors I think you already have wood overload. No to the TV above that FP and if you must to do wood floors a really light wood. Then work on replacing some of all that wood furniture . No dark stain for anything. IMO the walls painte a light color will make a huge difference too. I actually ripped out some knotty pine when we renovated it trully is a difficult wood to work with and bleeds like crazy if you do not use kilz when you prime

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  • decoenthusiaste
    3 years ago

    Have you considered a slate or tile floor? Something to contrast with the overload of wood. I would whitewash the KP walls, leave the ceiling and trim as is and avoid any wood floors.

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  • Jean
    3 years ago

    A very pretty stone-look alike tile is Timeworn by Artistic tile. We put the medium gray in our master and everyone thinks its real stone when they see it.

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  • btydrvn
    3 years ago

    LVP tile is not slippery...not cold ..easiest to maintain..waterproof...easiest to install...nicer to walk on barefoot or in socks....literally care free

  • ShadyWillowFarm
    3 years ago

    @btydrvn - my dog begs to differ re the slipperiness. But for us bipeds, it’s fine.

  • Angela W
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    Once again - thanks for the inputs!! So, I pulled the trigger and ordered light European oak 8" planks for the room. (Love the idea of slate / tile - was worried about the weight as this is a second level of an old house, but we will have that at entryway hallway which isn't in the photo).

    We plan to put a large light area rug on the majority of the floor on the fireplace side. And, the drywallers are coming this weekend! They're taking care of the walls, except keeping the KP trimmed out areas around the big windows. Will sand and stain the KP ceiling and window trim a light perhaps light grey tinted (to remove some orange) and more matte finish. As for the kitchen question, Ellen S - what do you think? I have the cabinet design and will be placing an order hopefully in the next week. It includes removing the peninsula and coming in with a square island, extending the perimeter counters through to the dining area and ending in a bar cabinet - with beverage center, counter area and upper glass cabinet. I have an idea on tone but would love to hear yours :-)

  • tedbixby
    3 years ago
    last modified: 3 years ago

    This was a log home that I helped an owner furnish. The owner hated the all over "orange" when she initially saw it empty prior to purchasing it. We made a plan of rather than changing it we would make it fade into the back ground by focusing on the furniture and accessories. She says the "orange" no longer bothers her. With your wall of windows, new flooring and the right furnishings do you need to really drywall or do you think it will make such a huge difference to you that it will be worth it? I think you are taking away the houses character when you start to drywall. And as far as staining your pine, you better try samples 1st as the stain may not take as you imagined and you could end up with a bigger issue.


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    3 years ago

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  • RedRyder
    3 years ago

    Tedbixby brings up a critical point. Be very careful about restaining.

  • ShadyWillowFarm
    3 years ago

    Can’t wait to see the finished product!!

  • Connie Stackhouse
    3 years ago

    You have a lovely place! We have a pine ceiling in our sunroom and love our light sage walls. We did large 20x20 tiles on the floor to avoid wood overload and decided to embrace the yellow in our furnishings. Good luck!




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    3 years ago

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  • Angela W
    Original Author
    3 years ago

    We are almost ready to reveal our update to the Knotty Pine situation at our house! Will share photos in the next few weeks :-)

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    2 years ago

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  • Sarah
    2 years ago

    Oh I can’t wait for the after pics to see what you’ve done!

  • RedRyder
    2 years ago

    Me too.

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    2 years ago

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  • husterd
    2 years ago

    Can’t wait to see the reveal:) So many interesting ideas.

  • felizlady
    2 years ago

    What a fabulous place!! The pine is not the problem…the very green carpet is. Change the carpeting and add some fabric panels for window accents (I think I see roll-up shades…hopefully they provide privacy at night when the shades are down). I would consider a lighter pine green carpet in that setting. You don’t want to add tan or brown with all the pine. Bring a dozen green color chip cards from the paint store and look at them with the pine.

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    2 years ago

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    2 years ago

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  • HU-516485277
    2 years ago

    Would love to see the end result!

  • RedRyder
    2 years ago

    @Angela W - do you have updated photos to share?

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    2 years ago

    Folliowing

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    2 years ago

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