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Comments (7)Can you post a floor plan with dimensions? It's really hard to provide feedback off of elevation images. For instance, your ovens seem like they are outside of the kitchen work area. I wouldn't like that at all. Can you shift the entry into the kitchen (the one that separates the fridge and oven area)? If so, then you can get the ovens into the main part of the kitchen. If you post a whole house floor plan, we can see what suggestions might work for you. The other thing I notice is that if anyone needs anything out of the fridge during dinner time, he or she will need to cut through the cooking zone to get to the fridge. I can't tell if you have the room but perhaps arranging the appliances with fridge closest to the table, then DW, then sink with the range on the wall where the fridge is would work well. Then you could put a prep sink in the island....See MoreKitchen Layout for New Build
Comments (39)With two little ones I think its going to be tough to go to a undermount sink to fit a 30" base. The larger the sink the better. The way we do dishes needs two strainers as well. Rinse on one side, stack on the other side. I always find these types of comments interesting when people have DWs. No need to rinse or stack. Just open the DW and plop 'em in. DWs work better when they are just scraped. The detergent is designed to mix with the enzymes in the food to do a thorough job cleaning. If everything is rinsed off, there are no food enzymes to improve the cleaning power. Sure, there are some things that must be rinsed. We all get to know our DWs after awhile. I forgot that I need to rinse my green smoothie glass as I had gotten out of the habit of making them and now have a glass sitting on my counter soaking with hot soapy water in it because the DW just baked the green scum on the inside. Will remember to rinse that from now on. But there is very little else I need to rinse off. So, just scrape, load in DW. Kitchen is clean without any dirty dish pile-up. Make it quick and easy. I'm lazy but like things clean so that is my motto. Regarding the clean-up vs. prep sink on the island debate, I have to side with cpartist on this. But since I rarely have dish pile-ups around my sink due to the above scrape and plop method, I don't normally have a pile of dirty or clean dishes no matter where my sink would be located. For prepping/cooking, I like it all on one counter. I'd rather slide than carry and it keeps my floor cleaner....See MoreKitchen layout for new build - advice, por favor
Comments (12)New island...it's doubtful you will be able to access the storage under the island b/c (1) the overhang is too deep over it and (2) you have walls (assuming those are support walls) on either side further restricting access. Maybe if you have a small child who can crawl under the island, but not a full-size adult or even a teen. BTW...those walls are limiting your storage options as well in the island. Stick with standalone legs, corbels or other types of support that do not require any kind of wall. (E.g., see the CounterBalance system in the Stone Advice FAQ (http://ths.gardenweb.com/discussions/2558824/stone-information-and-advice-and-checklists)) I do like Damiarain's pantry & laundry room changes. Combining a laundry room and a pantry is not a good idea. A pantry needs to be cool, dry, and dark for food storage. Laundry rooms are warm (heat from dryer) and somewhat humid (from the washer). Ditto for refrigerators and freezers in a pantry. I also would not want a window in the pantry for the same reasons, especially if the window is facing south or west. Heat can build up during the summer even through walls (experience speaking here) and a window is going to make it even worse --- as well as let light in unless you have very good widow treatments to keep the light out...but then, what's the point of the window.Oh, and it's wasting an outside wall on a room that has no need and for it. I wonder if moving the pantry into the inside would be better. I know that when we build again, my pantry will definitely NOT be on an outside wall again!...See MoreKitchen layout for new build
Comments (46)@cevamal Regarding dropped soffits and angles, to me it sounds like the lesson you need to take from the advice given is: If everyone else is doing it, so should you. Teach your kids that valuable lesson as well! Rip out soffits just because everyone is doing it? Really?! The only three related circumstances in which I could conceive that to be a viable design rationale—rather than just the fickle whims of the herd—are these: 1) you plan to update a kitchen for a quick resale to satisfy said whims; 2) you don't expect to be in your house long enough to go beyond the current fashion trend, and 3) you are a builder of spec homes. But these don't apply to you, do they? Make your decisions based on how you want to live, and the actual functional ramifications of any particular design choice. It's your kitchen. Our kitchen has a cathedral ceiling and a soffit wouldn't work with the overall look, but we also don't have an indoor and adventurous cat, and never will. And absolutely, it gets nasty dusty on top of those cabinets. I wonder how many of the herd who are ripping out their soffits are going to regret that decision down the road? Maybe at the time the herd then decides to build them back in? And how many of the herd who have installed floating shelves have regretted that decision? (And yes, I have designed a few kitchens with them, but always taking the lead from the clients' wishes—because those are their kitchens!! I just make sure the client considers all the issues, and once they are fully informed and make their decisions, I can live with it.) Same goes for the diagonal corner cabinet: I offer a design rationale for it not founded on the whim of the herd. If the design and design rationale don't work for you, not a problem. And hey, if you wanted to go with a full-on retro look, say MCM or the fading days of Art Deco or true Craftsman, well, go for it! As to the wall ovens, I only go along with Mark Bischak's comments to a limited point. I would not want to move the ovens closer to the entry because of the circulation question. Yes, I had already considered this. But his logic only goes so far. There is always the possibility of a rug rat (or anyone else for that matter) running into an open oven door. Or a refrigerator door, or a dishwasher door. It doesn't matter where in the kitchen these things are. I have bruised my shins a few times on our dishwasher. It's inescapable. And you as a parent and anyone else with children who happen to be using the oven would be aware of a present hazard and so would limit any horseplay nearby. If the possibility Mr. Bischak suggests makes you at all queasy, I have already suggested one option (borrowed light and close that loop (though you will still have a loop around the island!)), and there are other possible tweaks. We can also explore other arrangements (as you previously mentioned my first scheme was completely different, and it didn't suit you at all. You said above, "I intensely disliked it. Probably just because my current island is oriented the way it is, but I like it and don't want to change. :p" As you already know, telling me what you don't like is more important than telling me what you like!) If you want to bring in a KD for this one as well as you did for your current home, again, no objection! At the end of the day, you will be living in this kitchen for quite some time. Decades perhaps. It's not "short sighted" to design for what you want for the long haul. So, does the plan, at least in its basic form represent to you the potential better beyond the current good of your existing kitchen?...See MoreRelated Professionals
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