Shaw SPC flooring texture causing foot abrasions
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Comments (39). . . and now it begins I had SPECIFICALLY insisted that the carpet be power stretched. It was written on my order. It was written on the installers' job sheet. So what do I find when I check on their progress? A stinger. Which punches holes in the carpet and is explicitly prohibited by the CRI. I took a picture of it and emailed it to Lowes, and told them that the installer had violated the Mohawk warranty requirements. And hopefully didn't take chunks out of my subfloor in the process, but probably did. The installation team manager called Mohawk to confirm what I told him, and they said yes, stingers are a no go. So, I told them they are going to have to do it all over again, with new fresh materials, and do it right. more fun....See MoreDo your Karndean floors look like this?
Comments (325)@Cynthia Cunningham We have two LVPs in our house that we are trying to replace due to unfortunate reasons (defect in the first LVP and then misleading sales in the second, both companies ended up refunding us but it was a huge pain on both counts.) The finish matters. The one we have with a matte finish (Coretec Berlin PIne) tears up our socks and pants at a ridiculous rate (we are on the floors a lot with our toddler). We also have experienced the haze/footprint issue with that one that people complain about. The other LVP (Cali Bamboo North Shore Oak) does not have a matte finish, you can see and feel the difference comparatively, and it cleans great and has not torn apart our clothes. We hate going upstairs because that is where the clothes-shredding Coretec floor is and we have to try not to touch it with our clothes. Just by getting down on our knees and getting back up once ruins our pants because it leaves whitish patches (that turn to holes quickly with repeated exposure to the floor). I've had to apologize to friends whose kids ruined their pants in one afternoon of playing on our floors. Both companies say they use the same top coat (UV acrylic) and the one that has the most embossed texture (Cali) is the one that isn't shredding our clothes, so it is not a difference in wear layer composition or in embossing/not embossing. it really does seem to be a difference between matte and non-matte finishes. Unfortunately, we haven't been able to find any new LVP samples so far that don't have the matte finish that seems to have overtaken the industry in the last year. If it weren't for the fact that we were promised 10 patterns from Cali Bamboo and there were only 4 when we installed (and the repeats look glaringly, stupidly obvious) then we would go with Cali Bamboo just because it isn't shredding our clothes. Now, I could see how it wouldn't matter if you don't wear socks and don't get on the floors much. Even the clothes shredding floor is comfortable to walk on barefoot. It took us several months to figure out that was what was tearing up our clothes (but once we did figure it out, it was super obvious it was happening just on the Coretec matte floor). My point really is to say, yes, there is definitely some (if not most) LVP that certainly shreds clothes but there apparently is at least one out there that doesn't (Cali Bamboo). Still searching for another non-matte finish LVP and will let you know if we find one!...See MoreHas anyone installed Shaw Floorte?
Comments (71)We bought the Shaw Forte as recommended by our local DO IT center as the premium product for our bathroom floor. We have had 3 different flooring people come to install and all took a look at these materials and walked away. They refused to stand behind their install work with this product, stating that they have seen nothing but problems with this flooring. Corner curling and material separation results in leakage and cracks forming in the floor. The tiles DO NOT click together as promoted. They simply overlap. My husband has laid hundreds of SQ FT of LVP flooring in 3 different homes. We have talked with the Corporate people at Shaw for advice, but can get nowhere. We were sold on the statement by the seller that this material is used in industrial applications and holds up beautifully! We were told by the flooring install professionals that they have never seen these Forte floors last more than 1 year! We have invested $700+ in materials and the seller refuses to take it back nor make any reparations. We have thrown that money away and must re-invest in different materials so we can get a bathroom floor! Do NOT buy this product!...See MoreVinyl Flooring: Paradigm Waterproof Flooring
Comments (166)Quick update from my side. We had approx. 1000sqft of Paradigm Conquest installed approx. 5 months ago. We had horrible popping and crackling noise issues from day one. My wife described it as like walking on rice crispy treats. We just had the entire floor removed. Upon removal we inspected many of the Paradigm planks and found the locking mechanisms to be fully intact, but seemingly loose. The locked boards could move vertically with respect to adjacent board, at the joint. We hypothesized that the crackling noise was due to the combination of movement at the locking mechanism and the very hard SPC material at the locking mechanisms. The movement and most likely small slip / release when the friction in the locking mechanism is overcome, we believe, led to the two very hard surfaces of the locking mechanism snapping into contact with respect to each other, leading to the clicking or crackling sound. It appears that the SPC material has no physical damping characteristics due to its extreme hardness, so is very noisy with any movement. Some planks were worse than others, all presumably from the same lot. This led us to wonder if there's possibly a quality control issue. This was on a concrete sub floor that our installer believed to be within specifications. We reinstalled the entire floor with a different SPC brand that is now much, much quieter. We noticed that the locking mechanism on the new brand appeared to be more secure with no observable movement. This has been such a painful process with so much time and energy wasted. If I were to do this again, I would either not use a SPC material, or be very sure that the product has a tight locking mechanism with no movement and very good quality control. Someone asked how to contact Paradigm. From what I've observed, it's my opinion that Paradigm is somewhat a virtual company with no real operational presence. Tri-West LTD. in Santa Fe Springs, CA appears to be the importer and distributor, and handles everything related to this product. They're probably your best bet for any Paradigm issues or support....See MoreRelated Professionals
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