A Record 5.4 Million Americans Have Lost Health Insurance

jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

The coronavirus pandemic stripped an estimated 5.4 million Americans of their health insurance between February and May, a stretch in which more adults became uninsured because of job losses than have ever lost coverage in a single year, according to a new analysis.

As Sheryl Gay Stolberg reports, the study, to be released Tuesday by the nonpartisan consumer advocacy group Families U.S.A., found that the estimated increase in uninsured laid-off workers over the three-month period was nearly 40 percent higher than the highest previous increase, which occurred during the recession of 2008 and 2009. In that period, 3.9 million adults lost insurance.

“We knew these numbers would be big,’’ said Stan Dorn, who directs the group’s National Center for Coverage Innovation and was the author of the study. “This is the worst economic downturn since World War II. It dwarfs the Great Recession. So it’s not surprising that we would also see the worst increase in the uninsured.”

The findings are certain to fuel the debate in Congress over the next round of virus relief.

The study is a state-by-state examination of the effects of the pandemic on laid-off adults younger than 65, the age at which Americans become eligible for Medicare. It found that nearly half — 46 percent — of the coverage losses from the pandemic came in five states: California, Texas, Florida, New York, and North Carolina.


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It's really time for health insurance that is not connected to the workplace.

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maifleur03

I am surprised that the number is that low. I am aware that many 'gig' workers, restaurant, bar and many other part time people who make up a bigger segment of the economy than most realize have never had health insurance.

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

Is there any end to the terrible news?

The fallout from this plague is going to be horrendous and it's still early days.

I know some people who've been waiting for months and still haven't received any unemployment relief. They can't even get into the system.

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Iris GW

In the meantime, my brother who is living in a foreign country, got his stimulus check mailed to him ... in that country.

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adoptedbyhounds

"It's really time for health insurance that is not connected to the workplace."

Too late. Dems passed Obamacare without a single Republican vote. Dems own this unsustainable, unaffordable mess. It is so bad even the electeds (ALL Dems) who passed it insisted on a different plan for themselves.

Obama's promise: Americans will be able to watch their electeds negotiate the ACA on C-Span. Americans will save an average $2,500 per year! Nobody will take away your insurance. You can keep your insurance and your doctor!

What Americans got: Obamacare passed in the middle of the night because, as Nancy Pelosi explained, Demcrats had to "pass the legislation" before we could see what was in it.

Tens of thousands of Americans lost insurance policies and doctors Obama specifically promised they could keep, because Dems made the policies they liked and could afford illegal for insurers to sell. They just didn't tell us that up front. Dems needed Americans to believe their baloney, and they succeeded. But the truth did come out. And now we have an OP about all the people who no longer have insurance.

Enjoy your victory, Democrats. You own it all! And don't forget what Joe Biden said about Obamacare. It was a vulgar expression I wouldn't post it even if I could.


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maifleur03

As others have mentioned people could keep their doctor if they wanted to pay for the doctor or depending on insurance pay the extra for out of network charges. This repeating of this stuff is getting old especially since nothing was check out to see if it was true or not simply accepted because it was a political talking point for the faithful.

I will give you a small hint while the regular federal employees do have health insurance. Not all the plans are good but they do cover some of the basics the Executive Branch including Congress has to purchase their insurance from the market place same as most of the rest of this country.

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Stan Areted

adoptedbyhounds:

Tens of thousands of Americans lost insurance policies and doctors Obama specifically promised they could keep, because Dems made the policies they liked and could afford illegal for insurers to sell. They just didn't tell us that up front. Dems needed Americans to believe their baloney, and they succeeded. But the truth did come out. And now we have an OP about all the people who no longer have insurance.

Enjoy your victory, Democrats. You own it all! And don't forget what Joe Biden said about Obamacare. It was a vulgar expression I wouldn't post it even if I could.



Needed repeating.

Democrats had their chance to do it right.

They failed, Obama lied, people lost coverage and paid more, not saved more.


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maifleur03

By having insurance many actually saved more but that does not fit your desire. However your chance is coming since most insurance companies can not afford the after care for people who have "recovered" from the virus.

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huachuma

"Too late. Dems passed Obamacare without a single Republican vote. Dems own this unsustainable, unaffordable mess. It is so bad even the electeds (ALL Dems) who passed it insisted on a different plan for themselves."

This is where it must be pointed out for the umpteenth time that the Republicans had ample opportunity to contribute to the plan but refused to have any input.

They obviously had no plan of their own or even any ideas, but that fact always seems to be conveniently forgotten.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

I don't recall any of you righties interested in Single Payer or Medicare for All. Refresh my memory.

Also, with the ACA there were exchanges that did not require that a person be employed.

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dadoes

I have posted here repeatedly that my ACA insurance has been consistently and considerably lower than pre-ACA, and much better coverage. You pubs can believe that or not, I don't care. I know my truth.

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sheesh(5b)

They know it, Dadoes, and they don't care. Probably not a one of them nor any of their.friends or loved ones couldn't keep their doctor, but that's not their point.

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Joaniepoanie

They whine and repeat the same old nonsense about Obamacare incessantly, but cons have had 10 years to come up with a better plan and what....a big, fat bupkis! Meanwhile, millions are grateful for ACA.

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sheesh(5b)

Ten years. TEN YEARS!!! I wonder if they are proud.

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arthurm2015(Micro-Climate, Zone 10b Sydney, Australia)

Here in the Socialist/Commie Southland the present System has been a work in progress for a long, long time.

Joking! The system is actually a mixed private/public system.

Maybe the starting point for something better in the USA was the ACA.

I do have health Insurance covering Private Hospital admissions, been insured with the same Insurer for over 60 years. That insurer is Mutual, not a for profit company.

The stats say that when you spend more Per Capita than any other country on earth for health you should have good outcomes across the huge range of medical treatments.

Edit! added Per Capita for clarity.

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Annie Deighnaugh

For years during the obama administration, he kept saying, bring me something better and I'll sign it...and the gop never did.

What did the republican controlled house, senate and presidency for 2 years do to "repeal and replace" as promised? Exactly what has trump proposed and mitch put forward to the dems in the house as a fix to obama care in the last 2 years?

Absolutely nothing. No plan, no solutions, no attempts at improving it or replacing it. Zero.

All trump did was an EO which made it worse...more expensive with fewer people covered. All they're doing is trying to rip it away in court with zero replacement.

Just like every aspect of this administration, it's all about destruction. So much easier to destroy something than build something new....and they call it change. I guess they didn't promise for the better huh? Quite the escape clause.

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Nana H

The US is in the middle of a horrific pandemic that is straining its healthcare system and a General Election is quickly approaching yet the GOP still hasn't put forth a national platform for healthcare. I think it is rather like immigration, they have no consensus within the ranks of how to move forward with reforms so they just complain about the other guy's plans.

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linaria_gw(zone 7 (about))

perhaps if there is a Blue land slide in November

a new government could install

a proper health care system that is not linked to having a job


I bet lots of other grown up countries in Europe and somewhere else would be happy to "give guided tours" to US committees doing research


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what happened to someone, like

a low income family, both parents out of a job


on gets sick, has to go to the hospital, ends up at an ICU,


do they get kicked out when their money runs out or are they in debt including their great grand -kids?

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

The GOP does not have a plan for healthcare. In fact, this pandemic is the plan - it's called "survival of the fittest.

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Annie Deighnaugh
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adoptedbyhounds

"I have posted here repeatedly that my ACA insurance has been
consistently and considerably lower than pre-ACA, and much better
coverage."

Not in dispute. The problem for Democrats is that they made that reckless promise to ALL Americans. Had that promise been kept, we wouldn't be having this conversation.


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Ziemia(6a)

Why hasn't the GOP controlled government fixed it?

PS - what serious efforts have been made by the GOP controlled Congress?

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sheesh(5b)

It is very kind of you to be so concerned about ALL Americans that you feel republicans should do nothing to remedy the situation for most americans, that you are so pleased with your own that you think nothing needs to be done. TEN YEARS rather proves that, don't you think? That is what is not in dispute.

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dadoes

"AdoptedByHounds: Not in dispute. The problem for Democrats is that they made that reckless promise to ALL Americans. Had that promise been kept, we wouldn't be having this conversation."

And the Republican said way back in February that it's 15 people, soon to be zero, it goes away with the heat ... it being COVID-19. Temperatures and the heat index in many area of TX are reaching 110°F and cases are soaring. How's that working for you?

Perhaps if ALL Americans had gotten onboard with the ACA as intended, and the Republicans hadn't fought against the design of it and removed the individual mandate and such, then we wouldn't be having this conversation.

edit to correct: The 15 people statement was in February.

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patriciae_gw(07)

We have gone over this over and over again but Adopted doesn't care apparently. The ACA as it was was a vain attempt on the part of a new president to get bipartisan agreement on something so important. Some of us remember Boehner walking out the room having agreed to something or other only to have the deal break down under Republican intransigence over and over again. The complete lack of GOP input while requiring Democrats to give in was a point serious aggravation for me. Couldn't Obama see he was going to get nowhere with them and we would all lose. But lets blame him for believing the Republicans are better than they actually are. Making sure Obama got nothing done was more important than making sure Americans had access to medical care.

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carolb_w_fl_coastal_9b(zone 9/10)

GOP has been operating so blatantly under false pretenses, when it comes to legislation, there's no reason at all to believe a single word of any of their talking points.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

Well, I hope that Joe Biden wins, the Dems win the Senate and keep the House so that they can do it again.....but this time Medicare for all. They can keep the ACA and use some of the exchanges as a Medicare for All option.

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adoptedbyhounds

"We have gone over this over and over again but Adopted doesn't care
apparently. The ACA as it was was a vain attempt on the part of a new
president to get bipartisan agreement on something so important."

Nonsense. It was passed without a single GOP vote. Nothing bipartisan about it. The "new president" had both the house and senate, and saw no need to compromise. He promised Americans they could watch the legislation as it was hammered out on C-span. He promised repeatedly, along with other Dems, that nobody would lose plans or doctors. That ridiculous claim earned the "Lie of the Year" award, as some may recall.

Meanwhile, Nancy Pelosi said we couldn't even see what was in the legislation until AFTER it was passed. So Dems passed it in the middle of the night. They had the power to shove it down our throats, and crowed afterward it's the law of the land.

Now the OP is complaining that "...nearly half — 46 percent — of the coverage losses from the
pandemic came in five states: California, Texas, Florida, New York, and
North Carolina."

Why don't they just sign up for Obamacare?

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dandyfopp

Healthcare is Trump's Achilles heel. Republicans don't get it

Lloyd Green


Five million Americans have lost their health insurance in a pandemic - yet Republicans are still trying to end Obamacare


https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2020/jul/15/healthcare-republicans-trump-coronavirus



Published onWed 15 Jul 2020

Like Moloch, the ancient pagan god, Donald Trump is ever ready to demand that Americans sacrifice themselves for his greater good. He commanded that states open up early, and then this happened: Arizona, Florida, and Texas are looking like Wuhan redux. Come this fall, the president also expects that parents will put their children in harm’s way for the sake of his re-election bid. In response, teachers have taken to drafting their wills, just in case.

But other moments, Trump acts like a man with a political death wish of his own. His justice department is urging the US supreme court to strike down the Affordable Care Act as unconstitutional. The fact that 5.4 million peoplehave already lost their health insurance amid the pandemic does not even register as a blip on the administration’s radar.

Instead, last month the government filed its brief with the high court in its endless endeavor to erase Barack Obama’s legacy. Just think of Wile E Coyote chasing Road Runner and you get the picture.

What the president could not accomplish when the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress, he now hopes to achieve in the courts. Regardless, his timing couldn’t be worse.

A legal gambit hatched when the world looked well and the economy was thriving has morphed into another reminder that this administration functions as an incompetent Death Star divorced from reality. A response to the administration’s filing is due at the court late this month. By the time the Republicans convene for their convention in Florida, briefing will have just been completed.

Unfortunately, don’t expect Covid-19 to be done with America by then. Already, more than 135,000 of its victims lie dead; the total could reach 200,000 by election day. Once upon a time, the president predicted that this plague would be quickly gone and Jared Kushner told the world that everything would be awesome come July.

Instead, Americans are prisoners within their own borders. Large swaths of Europe, Asia and Canada are denying entry to US citizens. Passport privilege is gone.

The amicus briefs filed in opposition to the government’s position are bad news for the president. Portions of Trump’s base are actively aligned against him. In simplest terms, older voters and Catholic Americans don’t necessarily like what they are seeing.

AARP and the Catholic Health Association have come out swinging to defend Obamacare. AARP speaks for America’s seniors, and older voters are walking away from Trump.

Looking at the map, Joe Biden leads in Florida. Grandma and grandpa have no intention of going gently into that not so good night, not if they have a say about things.

As for the Catholic Health Association, it is one more reminder that organized Catholic interests go beyond contraception. Rather, the Catholic health ministry is the largest group of nonprofit healthcare providers in the US. Indeed, Biden’s call for an updated New Deal is reminiscent of the “small-c” Catholic ethos that marked FDR’s years. Rugged individualism has limited appeal when death looms and collapse is all around.

From that vantage point, Trump’s stance appears to be more about keeping the Republican donor-base happy than winning votes. When rocked-ribbed Oklahomans recently backed Medicaid expansion, it is time for Trump and his minions to rethink things.

In other words, conservative America is not exactly craving Republican economic orthodoxy. But the Republican party’s big-ticket contributors still do.

For example, the Cato Institute is siding with the administration in this scrum. The Koch brothers were early funders of Cato, and Nancy Pfotenhauer of the Koch-affiliated Americans for Prosperity sits on Cato’s board. The message is clear.

Against this backdrop, Trump’s veneration of all things Confederate appears to be misplaced recompense for his sticking it to his own working-class core. Yet the wisdom of this strategy is doubtful. Some of the economically hardest hit states may be ready to desert the president.

The latest weekly initial unemployment statistics show the largest number of first-time unemployment claims originating in places like Michigan and Texas. Biden’s lead in Michigan is no longer a surprise but polls also show him ahead in Texas, a state that last voted Democratic in 1976.

Texas’ hospitals are now being overwhelmed by Covid-19 yet the Lone Star State is the lead respondent in the fight before the supreme court. In the words of Kyle Hawkins, Texas’ solicitor general, “petitioners defend the ACA as good policy, citing the current pandemic. Not only are those policy arguments incorrect, but they miss the point.”

That is the sole mention of the disease in 49 pages of argument. Arizona and Florida, among other states, are also on board with the brief. Talk about a convergence of bad timing and worse luck.

In Too Much and Never Enough, Mary Trump, the president’s niece, writes that if the president “can in any way profit from your death, he’ll facilitate it, and then ignore the fact that you died”. As her book dropped on Tuesday, the Grim Reaper’s scythe is again unsheathed. Covid is going full-bore. The prospects of Trump as a one-term president grow.


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patriciae_gw(07)

Adopted, you know perfectly well that Obama and the Democrats in congress eventually gave up on Republican input. You know that. If the Republican party didn't give any input it is on them because they had months to do so. They have had TEN YEARS to do something else and haven't. TEN YEARS. All they ever did was pretend to vote to end the ACA. I think the general consensus is about 70 times? All that energy put into making a better plan? Why not? Well moaning and complaining and the occasional vote is so much easier.

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Iris GW

They have had TEN YEARS to do something else and haven't. TEN YEARS.

Yep, that is the GOP way when it comes to actually helping the majority of Americans.

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Zalco/bring back Sophie!

I wonder what this health crisis is going to do to our health care industry?

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dandyfopp

Well if older people and people with comorbidities are the ones dying, it could save them a bundle.

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patriciae_gw(07)

But the dying has been very expensive dying.

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jerzeegirl (FL zone 9B)(9b)

I am sure there are people with million dollar hospital bills from being kept alive for months. Didn't Trump say he was paying for them?

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