Kitchen layout advice needed
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Kitchen layout advice needed...thanks!
Comments (27)Here's my idea for you: I kept a half bath near the back door/back yard for quick potty stops for kids. There is mudroom storage on each side of the aisle going to the bathroom. I'm envisioning two benches, 18" deep with a shoe shelve below the bench and coat hooks at the end of each against the bathroom wall. The wall between sink and mudroom is an interior window, like this: [Rustic Dining Room[(https://www.houzz.com/photos/rustic-dining-room-ideas-phbr1-bp~t_722~s_2111) by Norwich Architects & Designers Smith & Vansant Architects PC You can make them functional or fixed. This interior window will allow you to keep an eye on the kids playing outside while keeping the mess and smell of the mudroom out of the kitchen (if you have boys, you'll thank me when they hit middle school. A roomful of middle school boys can take one's breath away). I turned the existing range area into a walk-in pantry and closet for the downstairs bedroom. I added a new full bath in the old foyer area for the downstairs bedroom. The lay-out is only conjecture since you didn't include sizes of that area (or for only walls either). As someone posted earlier, having what could be used as a master bedroom suite downstairs is generally be a plus when you sell. The range has windows on either side of it but you could also ditch the windows and do upper cabs instead (no idea what kind of view you have out the side). There is a small peninsula between kitchen and dining room. This has several purposes: more storage, keeps through traffic out of cooking zone and will serve as a sideboard to the DR. I did not add a counter overhang and stools because I didn't want to compromise the width of your DR. Fridge stays roughly where it is (can't pinpoint exact location without more dimensions) with a snack area between it and the chimney. Kids coming in from outside can dash to pantry, fridge and snack zone without getting underfoot in the main part of the kitchen....See MoreKitchen Layout Advice Needed
Comments (13)Thanks for all of the great feedback! We too are concerned about seeing the kitchen from the front door. It does make for a very informal space. Starting from scratch we would not have designed a house this way, but we are trying to make the best use out of the space we have. We had contemplated moving the kitchen down to the dining/laundry area as suggested. The big problem with that setup is we would have to give up the laundry room, and it would make for a pretty large dining room area that I�m not sure we would fully utilize. It would also require a decent amount of work, to move doors, electrical, plumbing, add windows, etc. I do like the idea of a sliding door leading out to the porch area though! The rear family room currently does not exist, as I had it drawn on the original floor plan. That is a future addition that may or may not happen, just depending on how long we stay in the home. Currently there is a non-conditioned sunroom where that family room would be located (so we still have to keep an entry into that area). The front living room is the only true living space the house currently contains. I agree regarding formal living spaces. My parents have a formal living room, and that room is absolutely never used (other than to store coats when guests come over). I too agree about swapping the living room furniture arrangement. I am not fond of having to walk in front of the television when entering the home from the front door. However, to swap the setup and create a hallway with the couch, we greatly decrease the useable space in the living room. You also are greeted by a television set and the back of a couch when you first walk in the door, vs. looking at the front of a couch and chairs. Again, it�s definitely not ideal, and it would be great to have a separate foyer. I�m kind of torn about the concern over venting the cooktop. Growing up, my parents did not have a vent over their range, other than the undersized vent that was built-in to the microwave. There were never any issues with fumes or smells. Our main concern with the island cooktop is the traffic jam that seems likely to occur with having the sink, stove, and dishwasher directly all in the same general area. We also would like to have the island completely open, as it seems that everyone likes to congregate around an island. We just really didn�t want to see the refrigerator when you walk in the front door. As liriodendron suggested, the island cooktop does create the "cooking show" effect. I think we are leaning towards moving the stove to the outside wall. I�ve included some updated shots of the kitchen layout, along with some shots of layout if we were to swap the kitchen and dining room areas. I�ve added a second window to the kitchen area, which would bring in more light to the kitchen, allow us to better center the sink and cabinets, and allow for more counter space between the sink and the refrigerator. Photos if we were to swap the kitchen and dining room areas:...See MoreKitchen Layout Advice Needed
Comments (13)It's not bad the way you've set it up - just a couple leetle monkeys I would move the prep sink one way or the other to consolidate the counter space on that side of the range. If it moves towards the double doors, the work area between the sink and range is expanded - but you lose a "sit down" space for stuff while opening the door. The sit down area might be too small to be useful. If it moves towards the range - its amazingly convenient to be able to fill and dump pots and the work space consolidates with "sit down space" and also things going to/from the ref. Since you batch cook, having a place where you can sit down a lot of things at once might be important. Bummer is that chopped stuff has to be lifted over the sink. All of that said, you know if that's the direction you actually want to face while cooking. This is just a reminder that you'll be completely facing away from everyone and everything while prepping and cooking. I think I would shorten the peninsula. It would irritate me to have to walk around it and it looks like it has a clearance issue (aging in place). BTW - the elevator exit towards the dining room might also. I'm guessing you're adding on the pantry there, but between that space, the closet and the fireplace side, it looks kinda narrow. It might be partly the overdrawn lines. As someone else found out - its a good idea to have at least one 42" entrance way because that's what a person needs when carrying grocery bags. Also reminding you that the dishwasher placements mean that you won't be able to reach the wall cabinets or get into the side base cabinets when the dishwasher(s) are open. If you haven't already, you might explore a variation of cutting the peninsula entirely to improve cabinet access and add either workspace under the micro with a small single person seating area on one side or the other. Or maybe think about what I call a micro-island - something around 18-24" x 36-48" that lets you stackup the ingredients after pulling them all from the pantry. If you choose to think about expanding the depth of the mw wall, you could then do a wall oven and shrink the range down if you wanted. Full disclosure - not in your price range, but if I was - well, the sexy feelings involved the 48"'ers might carry the day. HTH....See MoreKitchen layout advice needed
Comments (2)No, definitely want the microwave closer to counter height as opposed to over-the-range, even if I do end up moving the cooktop next to the oven. The more I think about it the more I want to leave the island empty to have plenty of workspace. Was thinking about making a space for it in the base cabinets somewhere....See Moremama goose_gw zn6OH
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