How about a picture mxk3?

4 feet tall in this its first full year in your garden, that seems really good growth considering its age. Patience Grasshopper ;)...give it another couple of years to put out all its stems/stalks.

(I have two mature CR. One has been in bloom for at least a week and the other still not).

This is rouge's pic from a prior year's thread:

^^ This spectacular foliage is what I'm talkin' about and waiting for!

Absolutely stunning specimen 'woody'. I gotta get one with white spires.

mxk3, I see you said 4 feet tall...and how many stalks/stems does it have?

I too like the leaves on these CRs. The symmetry of the whorls is appealing to me and there is never a leaf that is ragged or "holey" (if laughs at all insects).

Mine are just showing the flower shapes; bloom is still at least a week away, probably a little more (I did move most of them last year, so they're still a little behind established plants). mxk3, when you see all the pollinators on and around the flowers, it will be a Wow moment, don't worry.

4 stems. I went out and snapped a quick pic:

There's a new culver's root on the diagonal, just purchased the other day, and the small plant next to it is an ironweed that I also just bought -- which I expect to eventually get quite tall. As you can see, I need impactful plants there. Yea, yea, I know -- be patient...

Thanks for the picture mxk3.

That CR is looking very healthy. Give it two more seasons and I am convinced you will be impressed BUT if I understand your post correctly you have another CR AND an Ironweed, all shown in that one picture?? (And I thought I planted perennials so close to each other!)

Yes. They are spaced 1.5 feet apart. The area is larger than perhaps the pic is indicating. I have no problem moving plants if I need to -- I like a lush effect, what can I say. Glad to hear the CR is healthy-looking. I guess I can always fill in with annuals next year if I have to keep waiting.

I have no problem moving plants if I need to

My kind of gardener :)

This CR I had planted probably 5 or 6 years ago just past our property, definitely having to fend for itself:

Someday, someday...

What is the ball-shaped flower on the diagonal to it -- an allium?

Yup. I planted alliums as well. (I am surprised that they were still there ie not snapped off earlier this month by people walking by)

Morning mxk3. I am thinking of you as our mature Culvers root is soon to come into its own for 2020.

Here it is today:

Gorgeous, Rouge! I've had to do a lot of hand watering to help them through this hot, dry weather (more blow dryer winds again today...sigh...) but they seem to be hanging on. Still short but hopefully next year they'll put out some vertical growth. Pollinators aren't paying any particular attention to them, though -- not the new ones nor the one that I planted last year. Not sure why not, since the concensus seemed to be they are bee magnets -- I'd like to think it's because they have a lot of other goodies in the garden from which to choose but who knows.

Thanks mxk3. Yours will look amazing in a couple of years.

Pollinators aren't paying any particular attention to them, though

I commented similarly to my partner last season and notice this again now. But I had spoke too soon (last year) as later on the bees and such did finally swarm. I think the flowers were still not fully developed enough for these pollinators and they noticed something that I cant. Hopefully this will be the case again.