July 2020, Week 1
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Comments (56)Moni, Tim and I think the cedar trees started pollinating here about 4-6 weeks ago, which of course is so much earlier than usual, so maybe what I should have said is that they might be peaking now. There is a property next to us that has a solid couple of acres of them just about as thick as grass, and another that has probably 45 to 60 acres of them not quite as thick. While many of us try to cut them down and keep them to a minimum, many others just let them run wild and reseed all over, so we have a shocking number of cedar trees around here. I'd been trying to stay away from taking allergy medicine, but it is time to take it daily again. Amy, I know! I was so happy to be over the flu and feeling good again, and then here come the allergy symptoms after just a few days of feeling really good again. I even told Tim that it felt like cedar season had begun, but surely not....and I believe that was in late November. So, the next time we were out, we looked at the cedar trees and were stunned by have heavily laden they were with pollen. I am going to guess that the early autumn freeze followed by several periods of warm weather got the cedar trees going early again. I think this is the third year in a row cedar pollen season began early. I can't help thinking an early start to the pollen season is just another complication for anyone with allergies who also is dealing with the flu, a cold, bronchitis or pneumonia. There's also been a lot of strep throat going around. I suppose it is just that time of the year. Tim, Chris and Jana all are exposed to tons of sick people in the jobs on a daily basis, and I'm not, so usually I'll get sick once and that's it and they might get sick more often, but they also bounce back more quickly...especially Chris and Jana since they still are young and probably have more robust immune systems. This winter the kids have been perfectly healthy. Aurora had a cough for a couple of days, but it lasted no time at all, and Lillie hasn't been sick at all. Perhaps they are just old enough that they aren't bringing us every virus they encounter any more. I do remember what it is like with infants and toddlers who seem to have a runny nose more often than not at this time of the year. I did see that meme about seed buying and seed planting and it made me laugh out loud. The seed buying....that is the dream, right? The seed planting, though, that is the actual reality. Some gardeners live more in the dream and others live more in the reality, and most of us have some sort of combination of both the dream and the reality. I have really, really cut back on the seed buying, but still have a huge accumulation of tomato seeds from past years. With everything else, from veggies to herbs to flowers, I've stopped buying more than I can plant, and am trying harder to plant all the ones I buy. So, at least I'm partially reining in the seed madness. This is the first year I haven't ordered a single veggie or tomato seed, and most of the flowers I ordered were wildflower seeds. It feels odd to not have seed deliveries flooding in. Because of the landscaping projects, I suspect I'll be buying more plants than seeds this year, which is a big change. Kim, I'm glad you're getting all settled in and ready to have a big garden again. I know how much you've missed having that garden. Jennifer, Last year we bought the orange storage tubs for all the autumn, Halloween and Thanksgiving décor and I am so glad we did. It was so easy to spot them and pull them out immediately when it was time for autumn decorating and I was thrilled with not having to figure out which tub in the attic had which stuff in it. So, this year, we bit the bullet and invested in the red ones for the Christmas décor. I am so excited to have them, and they immediately made me feel more organized. We are going to recycle the previously used gray storage tubs to the garage to store Tim's junk. Did it hurt to go out and buy all these red storage tubs right after Christmas at full price? Of course it did, and the miser who lives inside my head kept telling me to wait another 2 or 3 weeks and they'd be on clearance, but I couldn't do it. I wanted the Christmas stuff taken down and put away promptly. I do consider them a worthwhile investment because they'll keep us organized and save time and frustration each year when it is time to bring out the holiday decorations. We even moved the 2 artificial Christmas trees from their old, torn, tattered and taped up original cardboard boxes to the red plastic tubs. I believe overall it will simplify our lives and decorating a lot. Rebecca, I'll see if Chris and Jana want to come to the Spring Fling. They both usually work on weekends though, so it is the luck of the draw, schedule-wise. You know, I am sure that back in the fall he sent me diagrams of his plans and I know what he intended to plant, but for the life of me I cannot think of any of it. I know they are more interested in blooming perennials than shrubs or trees, and they invested heavily in bulbs of all kinds, especially lily and daylily bulbs. What happened with those....Chris was visiting websites and making lists in May or June of all the lilies and daylilies he wanted for the yard. He'd show his lists and the photos to Jana and she'd add some others she liked. Then, at some point, he thought he read where they said that sales were closed for summer 2019 and they wouldn't ship again until fall 2019, so he ordered a ton of lilies and daylilies on sale, expecting them to ship in the fall. Well, somewhere there was a misunderstanding and tons of bulbs started arriving in the mail very soon thereafter, and they had nowhere to put them. So....molasses feed tubs to the rescue! We took him 6 or 8 of them, he filled them up with soil-less mix, packed in the bulbs close together since the tubs were just their temporary home, and the lilies and daylilies have been happily growing in them ever since. Now he is ready this month to move all those to the planting beds he created in his front yard this week. I believe that this week he planted his carefully selected mix of tulips, daffodils, hyacinths, crocus, anemone, guinea hen flower, red fritillaria, and whatever else he ordered. Back to the lilies...Once he knew he could temporarily plant them in the molasses feed tubs, he went back and ordered more lilies and more daylilies on sale all summer long, so now he has amassed an army of lily and daylily bulbs, ready to move to the garden whenever he has time to transplant them. I'm not even sure he has room for all of them, much less anything else. It is possible that Chris is a gardening maniac who wants to plant it all, and we didn't even realize that before he bought the house. They have specific rose varieties picked to plant this spring, etc. They really did their planning last spring while it was raining every day, and that carried over into summer along with all the bulb purchases, and then this week they built and planted the first two beds. He said they've been stopping traffic because everyone in their neighborhood wants to see what they are doing to replace all the lawn grass they've torn out. Moni, To label our tubs, I tape clear plastic page protectors to them. Then, we can slide a sheet of paper inside the page protector on each tub and, if the contents change, we slide out that sheet of paper and slide in the new one. I write on the sheets of paper with black permanent markers. I'm the most organized I've ever been, but it has taken me 60 years to get to this point. Now, if only we could apply all the great household organization techniques to Tim's garage/shop, where junk just piles up. When we were younger, he knew where everything was from memory. It would amaze his friends. Some friend would stop by and say "do you have a whatever..." and he could go straight to a location and get it in the blink of an eye. Now he stands there and looks around and says "it is in here somewhere". Then he has to dig and paw through everything to find it. So, just like last year, cleaning out/cleaning up/reorganizing that building is on our To Do list, and I hope we have more success with it in 2020 than we did in 2019. Larry, I hate that the mud is slowing you down. It is the same here...mud everywhere. I hope you and Madge recover quickly from the bug you have. I'm hoping the mud dried up before spring. We cannot rent a sod cutter and remove all the Bermuda grass until our clay dries out more. Right now it is so wet that I fear the sod cutter would bog down in the wet soil and get stuck. It is hard to have just the right conditions for cutting sod....you need the soil a bit moist, and certainly not rock hard like it is in the summer, but you don't need it wet and soupy like it is right now. I look at all the mud and puddles and just roll my eyes because I'm so tired of looking at all of it. We need to get Elvis to come spread a new load of gravel on the driveway, but it is in the same boat---probably too wet to be workable at this point, so we need it a bit drier so his equipment doesn't bog down in the mud. The good news is there is no rain in our local forecast until at least next Thursday, but the bad news is that the ground dries up so slowly in the lower temperatures and less intense sunlight in the winter. Jennifer, I have no idea what lights we have because Tim chose them while I was elsewhere in the store doing something else, but I know he bought LEDs and they are nice and bright, but the lights themselves stay cooler than the other ones we had before and don't build up a lot of heat, and you can put more strings of them together since they use less energy. It is good to see your little Brussels Sprouts. Yay! I've been working on my tomato grow list and it is an unbearable form of torture to keep chopping it down smaller and smaller. I was aiming for only 6-8 varieties since they are going to be grown in containers, but I think that when I'm done with it, it will be closer to 12 varieties. There's just no way to make it any smaller if you factor in needing a couple of cherry types, (I could do only one cherry tomato plant, but how can you choose between SunGold and Black Cherry?), some blacks/purples, some pinks, some reds, at least one orange (Tim's favorite Nebraska Wedding) and a couple of late types for production in late summer and early autumn....then 10-12 varieties is the bare minimum. I think if I can cut the list to 10-12, then I will have done really well when you consider my usual long grow lists. Rotating all the nightshades out of the front garden this year and next as a form of crop rotation means growing no potatoes this year. I don't like growing tomatoes in feed tubs, and there's nowhere else to grow them where voles won't get them. (Voles will go up through the drainage holes in the feed tubs, but only for potatoes....not for tomatoes or peppers.) I am feeling iffy about using the back garden at all with all the other stuff we have going on because, realistically speaking, there's only so many hours in the day for planting and maintenance,, so there likely won't be many other veggies. Probably onions, cucumbers, beans and southern peas, maybe all squeezed into one raised bed in the front garden, with all the surrounding beds filled with flowers. That means that onions will be the only cool-season veggie, and I am okay with that. Oh, maybe kale and lettuce. See there....cutting back is impossibly hard. Anyhow, I'm going to finish my tomato grow list and post it in the next few minutes. I've been working on it all week. I went through the seed box, pulled out all the packets of tomato seed that I wanted to plant, then began editing that big pile down to an ever-increasingly smaller pile. I piled up the seed packets in groups by color, then had to choose our favorites from each color, and while doing that, I tried to take into consideration which ones produce early, mid-season and late, as well as which ones' flavor we absolutely, positively must have this year. Ultimately I put back tons of seed packets into the seed box, and ended up with the ones that made the final cut this morning. It is odd to not plant any paste tomatoes, but not planting them is essential if I am to have the year off from canning (still gonna make pickles though) so I can focus on the landscaping projects. If I had more self-discipline and didn't love all the various types of tomato flavor so much, I probably could cut the current tomato grow list in half, but I lack that self-discipline and enjoy the wide variety of flavors too much to do another round of cutting. As it is, we'll probably have twice as many tomatoes as we need for fresh eating, but then I can just whip up tomato-basil soup or fresh pasta sauce for dinner when too many tomatoes start piling up on the counter in the summer time. Dawn...See MoreJune 2020, Week 1
Comments (90)Haileybud, I've never heard of either of those two onion varieties, but regardless of that, yes...daylength will initiate bulbing. Onions need to be planted shallowly because they won't bulb up if planted too deeply. Generally the deepest you'd plant the transplants would be 1" below the soil surface, so yes, as they grow they will look like they are popping up out of the ground and literally sitting atop the soil, and that is normal. It was the same at our house as it was at yours---May definitely felt like April and then June arrived and feels like July. It is like we totally skipped June and I don't like this quick switch from cooler than average to hotter than average much at all. Marleigh, I don't have any oxblood lilies but grew up around them---they are tough old passalong plants in Texas, handed down from one gardener to another seem to tolerate all sorts of soil and growing conditions. I think they'd do great for you. I'm glad you know enough about computer and phone stuff to help Nancy because what I know about both computer issues and phone issues could be written on the head of a pin with space left over. dbarron, I knew if you spent any time at all on the Plants Delights Nursery website, you'd find something you wanted. I'm the same way, but I haven't ordered any crinums yet. That doesn't mean that I won't, just that I haven't had quiet time to sit and look at them. Have you ever visited the webpage of Jenks Farmer? They sell crinums too, and enabling is what I do best. Jenks Farmer---Crinum Lilies Jennifer, Congrats on learning to can tomato sauce. See how easy it is? Now you can go nuts and expand to canned tomatoes, stewed tomatoes, salsa, etc. They're all easy. For most veggies like beans and peas, we prefer frozen fresh from the garden to canned. I like their texture better when frozen, and I like not dealing with the big old heavy pressure canner. The things I like to can mostly are those that can be canned in a boiling water bath, like tomato products, jams, jellies, and some fruit products. They are quick and easy and even when the BWB canner is completely full of filled quart jars, it isn't nearly as heavy to lift as the much heavier pressure canner. I am completely over lifting the heavy pressure canner and have no intention of using it any more, but I hang on to it in case I change my mind. I used the pressure canner a lot in the 1990s, but not so much since then. Of course, having 3 freezers helps. Green beans must be pressure canned or can develop botulism, which is invisible and doesn't give up an odor to alert you. A decade or two back a nurse who thought she knew how to can green beans canned them in a BWB canner and poisoned herself and her child. Well, probably it was 2 or 3 decades ago because it might have been even before we moved here in 1999, but I never have forgotten her and her child....as an example of what not to do. Fortunately our power almost never goes out, and it has only been out for 'a long time' once since we moved here. That was just a year or two ago and it was out for almost 4 hours. Still, we have a generator so we could keep the freezers going if the power went out. My grandmother froze her green beans and they were mushy. I loved her green beans....mushy, cooked with lots of onions and black pepper and enough bacon drippings to make them taste divine. They were true southern green beans and I adored them. I never could cook mine down long enough to get her texture though, and by the time I had questions about why, she was gone. So, one day when I was sitting with my favorite uncle, a very talented gardener himself, discussing gardening and preserving food, I complained that I couldn't get my frozen green beans the same texture as Mamaw's. He just grinned real big and said "I bet you are blanching your beans before you freeze them" and I confirmed that I was. He said she never blanched hers and that was why they were mushy. Well, who knew???? One of these days I'm going to freeze some without blanching them first and see if they give me green beans like Mamaw's when I cook them. Amy, Have fun with the grandkids! We have been enjoying ours so much once they were allowed to come over again. Do you like your bottom freezer? Our previous refrigerator had one and I didn't like it as much as I thought I would, but I think the whole freezer part of that refrigerator was a lemon and we'll never buy that particular brand again. It constantly melted down and defrosted itself just spontaneously here and there, ruining everything in the freezer compartment if you didn't catch it on time. After that happened several times and no one could explain why or fix it, we were done with that thing and bought the one we have now. Of course, with Tim being a pack rat, he has that big old fridge sitting out in the garage and one of these days he is going to fix it and use it out there. Sure he will. When pigs fly. He's really bad about hanging on to stuff like that to repair because, surely, it must have some good years left, (ha ha) and yet he never does anything with them. If Chris is lucky, our detached garage/shop will burn down spontaneously shortly after Tim and I die so he doesn't have to deal with his father's lifelong junk collection. Rebecca, It is your choice with the onions but they are not well and truly mature until the leaves have completely turned yellowish-brownish and withered and died. Until then, even with limp necks, the leaves are still sending energy/nutrients to the bulbs and enlarging them. Some gardeners just don't care and harvest them just whenever they get ready, but for maximum storage, they do a lot better if allowed to fully mature before being harvested. They're your onions so you should do whatever pleases you. Why is Fatboy still alive? Is there nothing that can kill that little beast? I guess Audrey is not a squirrel hunter? Pumpkin is a squirrel hunter, and he tries, but the squirrels elude him every time. We had a chicken disaster overnight and lost one of our few remaining hens. Tim closes up the chicken coop when he comes back from taking Jersey and Jesse for a walk after dinner. The timing of the walk works out perfectly as the free-ranging chickens usually are still out when he leaves to walk the dogs, but have put themselves up in the coop by the time he gets back, so he just takes a minute to close and lock the door. Sometimes I even ask him "Did you remember to close up the coop", when he comes inside but just asking the question annoys him because it seems to imply that I think he might forget to do it. (We are happily married, I swear. lol) So, during the night, the 2 dogs who sleep downstairs in Tim's office started having a barking fit, which is not that unusual. They'll bark if a skunk, coyote, bobcat, fox, coon or possum wanders by or whatever, but they'll stop barking if you tell them to hush. They woke me up, I went into the office, hushed them and they looked at me like I was nuts and starting barking and carrying on as if Godzilla was stomping around outdoors. I cautiously opened the front door and peered outside and couldn't see or smell anything, but heard a chicken screaming (in that way that a chicken screams as it is being carried off in the mouth of a predator) and the rooster hysterically calling out to her. The noises from the poultry were coming from south of the house.....not where the coop is located. I ran back upstairs to wake up Tim and he grabbed a flashlight and gun and ran outside.... So, we lost a chicken, and he found the rooster outside frantically searching for her. Whatever had taken her was long gone, and this morning we couldn't find a trail of feathers, so it must have been a large enough predator to carry her off easily. It took Tim a while to calm down the rooster enough to get it back into the coop, and this time he closed and latched the coop door. This means we are down to one hen and two roosters, and the hen that is left is the bravest one of the three. She has been out free-ranging around the yard all day while the clearly-traumatized roosters are hiding inside the coop. We have so much more trouble with predators than we used to, and I'm through inadvertently supplying poultry to them. After these last three birds are gone, we aren't going to get any more, even though we love having chickens. We just cannot keep them alive here as the woodlands provide too much cover for predators. I couldn't fall back asleep after all that middle of the night excitement, so today I am totally running on empty. Dawn...See MoreOctober 2020, Week 1
Comments (103)I agree with dbarron, anyone should feel free to do it. I am too insecure and introverted to feel comfortable to ever start a post, I don't even know if I know how, but I an sure there are others on here that will be fine with starting a post. Many years ago I worked at a factory, and a lot of factories were having lay-offs. We had a manager that was a lot of fun, and would say, " it you haven't heard a rumor by 10 o'clock, start one". Maybe we should work something like that. If someone gets up and has something to say, just say it. I am sure someone else will jump right in behind them and express something that is on their mind. I feel that there will be a few that feel comfortable being starters, and many of us will be mostly followers. But that is just my 2 cents worth. dbarron, I think you do a very good job, but there needs to be back ups. I think Dawn was a gift from GOD, and he may just have someone waiting to fill her shoes. I think the cream always rises to the top....See MoreDecember 2020 Week 1
Comments (86)I appreciated your new-born calf story, Larry. I ranched with my ex-husband for several years on a 3000 acre ranch in WY. It was heaven on earth. The marriage was not. I was broken-hearted that I felt I had to leave. I adored being out riding, rounding up the cattle for branding time and vaccinations; riding every week to check on eveything (fences, water tanks, cows doing okay, etc.). We ran Charolais or Charolais mixed with Hereford or Hereford/black Angus. I loved riding every day watching for cows that were about to go into labor. When we spotted them (although I was a former city girl, I was especially adept at spotting the cows that were ready to go into labor), we'd gently herd them into the corral, and they could go into the straw-laden stable for birthing. We missed a few, of course, and occasionally would find a dead cow and/or calf. But not often. Except for my alcoholic husband, it was the best time of my life until I moved down here with Garry. It truly was heartbreaking to leave the ranch. It wasn't a job, it was sheer joy, being on a horse and riding the country. Many of the "women folk" back there didn't engage in the outside herding work. A few of us like-minded souls did and loved it. And though it was very, how should I put this. . . . "patriarchal" back there in Wyoming, those of us like-minded women also had spouses who thought it was great, It was FUN to be out riding with husbands, hired hands, kids. SO many amazingly wonderful or memorable (but I survived), memories. Wow. I digressed mightily. What I was GOING to say was that we could only support about 2 .2 cows per acre . (That sounds like too many. Pasture land back there was sketchy and sparse.). Point is we could only run 120 cows/calves on those 3000 acres. We had our home and pasture land, then the "upper pasture," which was 5 miles away, and whose western border was the "Hole in the Wall cliffs. . . " the red wall, overlooking the valley. (Think Butch Cassidy--yes, that was our western border.) That was a whole lotta land to cover for 120 cows and calves. We had about 20 acres of meadow land near the house, along the Powder River. We grew alfalfa hay there, and next to the river, where it was rather sandy forest land, we had an enormous patch of wild asparagus. Here's a funny one. . . so many funny ones. In the middle of a hot summer, Bill and I (husband then), packed up the horses in the trailer, and headed to the upper place to ride around those 1500 acres, making sure everything was okay, and checking the water tanks. He went one direction, I went the other. As I covered my assigned area, I came down to one of the 3 strategically placed water tanks, on my horse Banjo. As we neared the water tank, he began snorting and backing up and downright balking. So I dismounted and led him the last, oh, football field away, to the water tank. He wasn't happy, but didn't race off. I tied him securely maybe 50 feet away. The stench was unbearable. So I was doing the "mouth breathing thing," and walked right up to it. There in that 8' diameter stock tank was a dead sheep (we ran sheep that year) floating in many moldy green/white/gray pieces. I did NOT wretch just then because I was mouth breathing. I quick backed up many feet. I stripped off my clothes--ALL my clothes, and headed back to it. (After all, these cows HAD to have water). I found a kind of flat rock, and then got into the water thank and began scooping moldy decaying sheep pieces out, over and over. Well THEN I began wretching, so I'd get out, walk away and wretch. Then go back. I kept doing it over and over. Had to prove I was a real cowboy. I finally got that stock tank running clear. . . I was so proud of myself, thinking Bill would be so proud of me, too. Well when we met back up, (and he had come looking for me because I was late/missing) I told him what had happened. He almost died laughing, saying, "I cannot believe you did that! I'd have NEVER done that." That was a lucky man. So sad he had the alcoholic thing. That wasn't the only time he said that--more good stories of my heroism! LOLOLOL Well, friends. . . scroll right on past if warranted. Did I ever get carried away this evening. XOXO to you all. Got some bad typos but too lazy to fix. I hope you can read past them! LOL...See MoreLarry Peugh
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