Advice/Opinion on Induction stoves, particularly the Invisicook
Alice M
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Comments (86)I have a problem very similar to Debbie2340. I recently purchased a top of the line Samsung Induction Slide-In Range. It contains 1 large induction cooking zone and 2 smaller cooking zones. To pair my high-end range, of course I couldn't resist to purchase high-end cookware. I purchased the all-clad nonstick set which should work with induction cooktops. All of the all-clad pieces work on the smaller zones. However, none (not even the large pans) work on the large zone. The error code says that pan is not detected. The manual contains minimum pan base diameter specifications, which says the base must be at least 7 1/4 inches in diameter. My all-clad set has 3 large pans which have exactly 7 1/4 inches of magnetic base diameter (these don't get detected). After much experimenting, I discovered that if I place the pan 2 or 3 inches beyond the circle (to the front or the the right), it then gets detected and then I am able to slide the pan back into the circle and it will continue to heat. Even with this silly workaround, I had to call Samsung and they sent a service technician who replaced several parts and the mainboard. This did not help solve the problem. I then had the entire range replaced with a brand new one. Unfortunately, the new one has the exact same problem and symptoms. I then called Samsung and had a long discussion with the service rep (who was very understanding and sympathy and tried getting an expert engineer to assist). When I was describing the characteristic of the base of the all-clad large pans, I explained that full length of the base is actually near 8 1/4 inches in diameter. The base seems to have very small outer ring (1/2 inch) and this outer ring is not magnetic. The inner ring is exactly 7 1/4 inches in diameter and it is magnetic. I used the magnetic strip provided with the range to test which part of the base is and is not magnetic. Keep in mind that both the inner and outer rings of the pan base I mention above are flat and leveled to each other and connected. The only way to distinguish them is the color. The outer ring is more silverfish in color. The Samsung engineer believes that the non-magnetic outer portion of the pan base is causing the sensors to display that the pan is not detected. In other words, they believe that it detects that there is a nonmagnetic material in the cooking zone and thus will not activate. By moving the pan several inches beyond the circles fools the detection logic since the non-magnetic portion of the pan is no longer inside the cooking zone. This is their theory. I then acquired a cheaper pan from Kitchen Aid (10" skillet with a 7 1/4 inch base diameter). The kitchen aid pan works perfectly on all the cooking zones, including the large cooking zone. The kitchen aid pan has a base which is 100% induction capable (magnetic end to end). So even though both my All-Clad and Kitchen Aid pans have 7 1/4 inches of magnetic material diameter, the All-Clad has extra non-magnetic material on the outer section of the base (1/2 inches on each side, thus a total of 1 inch diameter). At this point I am very disappointed at both Samsung and All-Clad. Samsung seems to have very strict (or hidden) detection requirements which are not clearly communicated to the public. All-Clad should have known this and avoided making expensive induction cookware which has a small non-magnetic section on the outer section of the base. I cannot return the All-Clad cookware since I've already used most of the pans. I will reach out to the All-Clad customer service to get their thoughts on this situation. Bottom Line, Samsung will likely claim that the cookware is the problem. All-Clad will likely claim that Samsung's cooktop is the problem. Does anyone on this forum have any thoughts/comments/suggestions? I can post a photo of the base if anyone thinks it would be helpful. Thanks, Alex1885...See MoreNeed advice on combining induction and gas
Comments (24)Hello jdsb2 - - what did you end up deciding to do? I find myself in what may be a very similar situation today. I purchased a home a year ago with Gaggenau appliances... 12" deepfyer (that i switched to a 12" electric grill), 24" electric cooktop, 12" single gas burner.... those are approx - in total, its actually only 47".... Being that Gaggenau are such high end appliances, i gave it a year with the electric cooktop, and i just can't stand it anymore... so i want to make a switch. Similar to you, i LOVE using my outdoor blackstone griddle, so i've been wanting to bring that experience indoors... In a separate thread, i've discussed having the granite cut out larger and putting two 30" gas cooktops in, placing a large griddle over the majority (or all) of one of the cooktops.... however, many recommendations have been to put induction in... so naturally, i'm wondering if i should put a 30" gas next to a 30" induction... and put the 30" griddle on the gas side... My concern is whether this will look a bit goofy... so if you finalized somethign similar, i was hoping you'd have some comments and/or pictures you could share?? p.s. i guess i could do two 30" induction cooktops and put the griddle on one of them... but i am VERY hesitant to eliminate gas altogether... and not sure if that'll work correctly with the induction....See MoreHood, microwave, induction stove questions in a new kitchen
Comments (8)Helen, exactly that! We went today to Ikea and I was thinking to myself, here I am fussing over cabs pricing but they listed their built in appliances/ fridge for same price as kitchen cabinets... oops.. unfortunately it is like that with my hubby,everything fine and next thing you know we are getting new gadget I never heard about... until today I have not heard about induction stove... Ergonomic reason for higher oven placement might be exactly what will sell it to me... would you be able to clarify insert for the hood? June, funny, I work in healthcare and frequently hear "Diagnosing themselves with Google"... I get it, gotta respect people need to educate themselves though... I agree will get a KD but do not want to be a client from hell that changes opinions every 5 minutes. At this point I am all about educating what makes me happy and what is it I will want to be my priorities... Considering style that we cook do I really need to look into 3k hood option? My concern that ceiling is vaulted and cleaning it up at that height might be a challenge if I go with low key option for ventilation? Would induction stove use help? Muriel, glad you remember my first post! Yep, you guys gave me some great suggestions on starting my journey and some cool imaging to think about. For sure will be utilizing some! I went to several places and realized that I really do not like painted furniture and white kitchen just does not make me warm and fuzzy. I still like light furniture and light colors and love tiles. Looking at others kitchen and finished projects makes me realize that I really want clean counters with very uncluttered look so all my gadgets better find other places than countertop....See MoreHas anyone installed Invisacook?
Comments (2)Have you seen these three current threads? https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5995794/invisible-induction-reviews#n=314 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/5939586/advice-opinion-on-induction-stoves-particularly-the-invisicook#n=70 https://www.houzz.com/discussions/6352989/invisacook-use-and-abuse#n=11...See MoreHU-227031627
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