Steve Schmidt, PBS Frontline interview
PBS Frontline interview with former Republican Steve Schmidt, "America's Great Divide" -- took place about four months ago.
This hour long interview was recommended to me and I hung on every word. I don't know if this has been posted. If you have the time, you will meet clarity of thought with a calm thoughtful delivery that is not easily found these days. A comment on youtube mentions that Al Franken did an interview with Schmidt on May 17th 2020. I plan to watch that one too.
ETA -- the Franken interview is a podcast I see.