Thanks for the replies. I'm not sure if I want to go the lawyer route since I would have to prove that they are concentrating the flow of water onto my property which is not necessarily the case. They are just not draining it correctly and it ends up on my property. As for relocating the downspout, that is an option but the problem is that the gutters are wrecked and the water drips along the whole length of the gutter. If I relocate the downspout, that will not really significantly reduce the amount of run-off. Thanks for the tips though. Any others would be greatly appreciated.

Okay, here's where we now stand. The roofer who oversaw the roofing job (not the roofer of record), seems to feel he is responsible, since I first contracted with him. He feels that the reason the water got under the drip edge where it did is that the gutter had been raised in order to pitch it the "correct" way, and it was not low enough, that the drip edge was going into the gutter instead of sitting above it. He wants to either cover the fascia board with aluminum and run it up under the roof with a bead of caulk, or, place the "flap" of the drip edge against the fascia board and put the gutter up against it so there is no opening for the water to get into. I had the rep from Tamko at the house. He feels that the color problem resulted in the run between colors not being discarded, told me it RARELY happens , and is suggesting that the roofer swap about five sections with other sections from an upper roof, and hand seal them. He insists the integrity of the roof will not be compromised, and that it will look perfect. He also says that Tamko has no liability for color, that their warranty does not cover it, and he spoke to both roofers, partly in my presence, and partly while he "hid" in the driveway. I have to assume Tamko is going to pay for this work, but I was not told anything other than that someone else from Tamko would come to the house to look it over, and make arrangements. He then said that I would be asked to sign a release after the work is done. Interesting, in light of the fact that he is saying Tamko has no responsibility, that they simply want a "happy customer". I am not sure I am happy about them pulling out sections of roofing and replacing it, so I would like some opinions here. I had another roofer come in to give me some ideas on the ice damming and backup situation. He also mentioned aluminum on the fascia, he did not get up on a ladder so he can't comment on the drip edge, but he also mentioned another product which is "sticky", like the shield, which he feels he could put on the edge of the roof behind the gutter. Will this work with everything that is already in place? I feel like I have just spent over $13,000 for a nightmare, and I don't want it compounded, but the only reason we even did the roof was because of the backup of the water after a snow, and this problem has not been remedied.

Leaf Guard gutters are great at keeping out the debris, but... I HAVE A WARNING FOR THOSE IN SNOW STATES: There is no way to prevent ice formation - no matter how well insulated and ventilated your attic is. If the temperature and sunlight conditions are right, the snow is going to melt, and re-freeze on these "ice maker" gutters. We never had ice damming problems UNTIL WE INSTALLED LEAF GUARD GUTTERS. I am sure it is possible that some ice formed inside our gutters, but the extent of ice formation now is SHOCKING. If you think about it, this makes sence, the hood over the gutter is a thin piece of metal, with air flowing over and under - when water trickles down due to snow melt from our black-shingled (heat absorbing) roof, and hits this air-chilled metallic surface, it freezes - as do the water droplets that hang from the metalic edge of the gutter hood. The opening between the hood and the gutter is quickly sealed off because of this icing, and then you have a perfect storm for ice formation. If you've never seen ice damns on your home before YOU WILL ABSOLUTELY see them after you have these gutters installed. IT GETS WORSE: We had these installed on our Wisconsin home in November, and just a few weeks later we had a few large snow falls and then some very sunny weather - with temps below freezing. The ice formation on our brand new gutters was ASTOUNDING. We called, and they told us that this meant the gutters were working - that ICE is not LIQUID WATER and the gutters are meant to keep out everything except LIQUID WATER. Their response to our concerns so obviously well rehearsed that we soon realized that this was a major problem with these gutters. To be sure, the icicles hanging over the gutters were 2 to 3 feet long - I had to drive through ice to get into my garage. More significantly, the ice forming directly on top of the gutter hood was 4 to 5 inches thick. IT GETS EVEN WORSE: Within a few days of expressing our concerns to Leaf Guard, and being told that the gutters were working, weather conditions got much warmer - the snow on our roof began to melt rapidly, and the flow washed the ice formations (4 to 5 inch thick ice spanning our entire roof line) off of the top of the gutter hood. Fortunately nobody was killed - because had someone been standing in the wrong place at the wrong time THEY WOULD HAVE BEEN SEVERELY INJURED OR KILLED. Unfortunately I have a working greenhouse attached to my home. It was demolished. We spent the rest of the winter trying to keep the ice from forming on the gutters using a roof rake. Most of the winter we were okay, but there were mulitple times where the ice formed - and multiple occurances of SLABS OF ICE FALLING FROM OUR ROOF LINE. SUMMARY: Leaf Guard gutters are great at keeping the debris out - we have a wooded lot and just got through spring with the gutters performing marvelously. However, if you live in a state where there is regular snow accumulation (ZONE 4 or lower is my guess), the YOU SHOULD ABSOLUTELY AVOID BUYING THIS PRODUCT AT ALL COSTS. There are other alternatives that do not prevent water from making it INTO your gutters during winter. AND BY THE WAY - EVEN THOUGH THE WEB SITE AND THE CONTRACT YOU SIGN STATES: "Leaf Guard Gutters neither help nor hinder the formation of ice", YOU CAN BE SURE THAT YOUR ICE PROBLEMS WILL REACH EPIC PROPORTIONS AFTER YOU INSTALL. BUYER BEWARE. NOTICE: If anyone else has has similar problems, please post to this message board.

Having taught many volunteers how to hammer nails(HfH crew leader), I found two basic problems when folks bend nails. 1. The hammer face is not perpendicular to the nail---it hits the nail at an angle. This problem has two causes---angled hammer heads(head not perpendicular to the handle). 2. Improper use of the hammer(hitting at any of several angles---off perpendicular/off vertical/on a bias). Either of the two can be caused by being nervous about holding such a small nail when hammering---fear of hitting ones fingers is a powerful deterrant to proper procedure. One way to prevent the fear factor is to hold the nail with a pair of regular pliers. Not needle nosed or slip joint types. The grooves in the plier jaws hold the nail securely and the nail can be aimed to be in line with the face of the hammer---with a little practice. The pliers also help support the nails and lessen the chance of it being bent.